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Toivo from Toivola (Toivo) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 08:44 am:

On this day, in which year did the kids make a big snowball on the Pasty Cam?

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 08:48 am:

First Post

By Snowman (Snowman) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 09:01 am:

Hey, that's no snowball, that's my Uncle Bob!

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 09:44 am:

I'm back!! Had to go answer the phone.

I'm curious. Where is the 1910 picture taken exactly? Also, my hubby thinks those fall plants are actually called pitcher plants. Does anybody know for sure? Loved the 2006 and 2007 pictures!!!!

It's awfully brisk here today, but they predicted snow so I'm thinking brisk is okay. And I don't see any clouds at all, so I'm thinking maybe no snow. I hope not as we're taking the grandkids to a corn maze. There's also supposed to be a bonfire but, I'm thinking with the wind, that might not be possible.

Have a great Sunday whatever you're doing.

By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 09:49 am:

That 1910 picture looks like the road to L'Anse just below the Snowshoe Priest....what do you think?

By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 10:01 am:

It's rainin' cats and dogs here today, but I'm heading down to IKEA in Canton today to meet my friend from Grosse Pte Farms for a day of shopping. That is such a fun place. I heard a rumor that they might be building an IKEA in Lansing. Woo hoo! Can't wait! Have a great day...whatever you do! Take care of yourself Charlie!

By Ken Scheibach (Kscheibach) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 11:06 am:

Deb S.

The plant is a Northern Pitcher-plant, a carnivorous plant. Insects become trapped in the pitcher-like leaves. The insects are then digested, and the nutrients used by the plants. See this web-site for more info. on this cool plant.

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 11:13 am:

Thank you all for answering my questions. I love this site!!!!

By Shirley Waggoner (Shirlohio) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 11:36 am:

Well, I see you're "thinking", Deb S. :) Hope all turns out well today for you and the grandkids. BTW, when you Yoopers get snow UP your way......KEEP IT UP there! :>

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 11:57 am:

We had a much needed rain downpour earlier this week. Northern Pitcher-plant,I wonder if it could be happy here in the South? It is nice weather here in East Tennessee after the rain with sunny skies temps around 65 for the high and 40 when the Sun goes down.

By mickill mouse (Ram4) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 12:28 pm:


By Allen Brown (Mg84310) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 02:45 pm:

Toivo -

How does one best pronounce the name of your town? Stress on the first syllable - TOI-vo-la - or on the second - toi-VO-la? How would the earliest residents of Toivola pronounce it?

I ask this question to not only Toivo, but to all to answer.

By Thomas Baird (Thomas) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 03:40 pm:

Can't get over how great photographers there are from the
Keweenaw. I c there was an early snow 6 years ago at this time,
and I c from the weather reports today, the southern part of the
Keweenaw may b in 4 up to 4 inches of wet snow. Better get
ready 2 sing "Marshmallow World" by Dean Martin.

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 03:46 pm:

I looked wistfully at da UP's "Winter Weather Warning" this morning, while not so patiently awaiting the last daily high temperature in Phoenix to finally fall below 90°F! — maybe by next weekend! (Who but a genuine Yooper would see it that way, eh?)

Imagining the coming snows in da UP caused me to develop a serious craving for some nisu with my morning coffee. None to be had in da desert, oh darn! Yes, I have made my own real nisu in the past; too big a chore for this morning though. But I do have a fix for that problem! So it occurred to me to share my "Poor Man's Nisu" recipe with others who may be suffering the same malady. (Now why didn't I ever think of that before?)

Incidentally, in the past have found that nisu purchased from most of the usual sources in da UP seems virtually flavorless and feeble in comparison to my memory of granny's home made from days of yore. It's almost as if the bakers are deliberately being stingy with the expensive cardamom, although my own attempts don't seem to deliver the pungent cardamom kick that I remember. Perhaps one's "taste memory" is more vivid than reality?

In any case, here's a "Poor Man's Nisu" that'll give you that ol' cardamom kick. (You can adjust the potency to suit your preference, and no baking required!)

(Background note: I am a serious cinnamon addict. Cinnamon rolls, cinnamon toast, apple pie generously dosed with cinnamon, cinnamon ice cream, even. Eureka, an idea is born!)


"Poor Man's Nisu"

Get some ground cardamom, mix with sugar (the stuff is potent, I'd recommend blending a small amount to start, at a ratio of not less than 8 units of sugar to one of cardamom).

Seal the mix in a Ziploc® bag, shake to yield a uniform blend.

Place in a shaker-top spice jar/container.

Sprinkle on toast, as you would with a cinnamon/sugar mix.
No it isn't nisu, but it'll sure give you a memorable cardamom kick, which at last for me is really the essence of nisu!

It shouldn't be too difficult finding ground cardamom in almost any good grocery store in da UP, but it has to be very fresh. Caution: It is really easy to find some tired, elderly ground cardamom on the grocery store shelf at an exorbitant price, e.g. a small (1oz. or less) jar of Spice Islands® ground cardamom for what $10-11? Yikes!

If it's not to be found in your neighborhood, I have found a very good mail order source: Penzeys Spices, and here's their cardamom page, scroll down to find the "Ground Guatemalan Cardamom Seeds (no shell)". Penzeys spices are fresh!

You may want to peruse their catalog for any other items of interest to bundle in the same order, perhaps a few shaker top spice jars? as the shipping costs are a bit stiff for a single item.
Betty Paull Colborn,AZ (Betty) on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 11:56 pm:

FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) I have a question for you, have you found any place in Phoenix area that sells pasties? I know the Mining Camp did but that is to far away for us.

By Martha Kirk (Misschiefie) on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 12:33 am:

FRNash, I also use Penzey's spices and, yes, they are very good. And I love their catalog. It's full of very useful information.

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 01:03 am:

Betty Paull Colborn,AZ (Betty):
"any place in Phoenix area that sells pasties?"

You betcha: The Cornish Pasty Co. in Tempe; they've been in business since January of 2005.

Check out their menu, too. ('Tis best to download the "To Go Menu" in PDF format from the link a the bottom of any of the menu pages.) They have redesigned their web site since I saw it last, and have done a terrible job with it. I looks nice, you just can barely read the text! A great example of over-engineering!

The "Oggie" (The Traditional [Cornish] Pasty) is the closest to da UP version.

They have many other variations as well, including 11 vegetarian versions (Are Elvira & Sadie still with us?)

I find the following to be quite good: Carne Adovada, Pesto Chicken, Chicken Alfredo & Spicy Asiago Chicken. (As a rock ribbed "traditionalist", I just have to insist that they really are not "pasties", but they're good anyway!

I usually get the "part baked" pasties and cook 'em in the ol' convection oven at home.

By Betty Paull Colborn,AZ (Betty) on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 01:10 am:

Thank you FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash). We live in Sun City, so will have to check this out.

By kosk in Toronto (Koskintoronto) on Monday, October 27, 2008 - 06:58 am:

We spent the weekend in the LP visiting relatives and enjoying
the autumnal scenery. No weekend in Ann Arbor could be
complete without a stop at Zingerman's, one of the world's best
delis or a stroll through the farmer's market where we still
found plenty of excellent produce and flowers to bring to the
relatives. The whole town was awash in yellow and blue, and we
even saw the marching band's buses at the ready to be escorted
by two police officers sporting UofM helmets. Okay, Michigan
didn't win, but there were some shining moments.

And to add to the nisua strand--my father picked up an
excellent loaf for me at Bethlehem Lutheran Church's bazaar.
Still, so far, nobody makes better nisua than my Cousin Jen who
packs us off from the Copper Country for Toronto at Christmas
time with a fresh loaf and a stick of butter. Yum! There are
plenty of Yoopers in my dad's congregation which is just a hop,
skip and a jump away from the Finnish Center where I picked up
a couple of gifts in the gift shop. Lots of Yoopers there too as
you can imagine.

Get well soon Charlie!

By Carolyn Rowland (Carolyn) on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 11:14 am:


You wrote "nisua!" That's so cool. I've never seen it written that way though that is how my great grandmother Jackola always pronounced it. I've never heard anyone else call it that. She never made nisu, she made nisua. :)

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 11:55 am:

Carolyn Rowland (Carolyn):
"nisu vs. nisua"

Ditto here, granny made "nisua", and that's what the rest of the family always called it too. (I never quite understood that either!)

The word "nisu", is curious enough; it seems to be a true "Finnglish" word, being the old Finnish word originally meaning "wheat", and virtually unknown today in that context in Finland, where "Pulla" is used instead.)

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