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Charlie at Pasty Central (Chopper) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:31 am:

The visitor's center near Watersmeet is a pleasant stop along the way from Wisconsin to the Copper Country. Our family used to drop in every time we made the trip from Eau Claire to Eagle River, prior to 1988, when we moved here full time. Next year we'll mark our 20th anniversary of being full time U.P. residents.

By kay Moore (Mskatie) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:33 am:

Top ;o the mornin' all. 3:30 am and I can't sleep. Do I maybe qualify for Early Bird?
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By john mich (Johnofmi) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:37 am:

Yeah, and nothing on TV but infomercials...

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:39 am:

way to go Kay, can't sleep because of pain so thought I would try for the coveted Early Bird and low and behold my pal Kay got it.

By kay Moore (Mskatie) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:54 am:

I want to wish Sharon Smith a safe trip tp Detroit. Will be a long time there from the sounds of it. I'm so glad she's now able to sell her house there. But will be a little hard emotionlly to not have that place of her old days. But what a wonderful time she''ll have UP at her new life. I'm sure the kitties will recover when she returns next month. I SO enjoy her stories about them. Fro the looks of it, her Jasimine is colored a lot like my Betsy. Bon Voyage, Sharon!

By Kelly Kidd (Ellykay) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 06:07 am:

Good Morning, Still very dark and very early here on the Left Coast.

By Vicky P (Vickyp) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 06:53 am:

Good Morning - humid this morning!

By Beverly, San Jose (Beverly) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 07:05 am:

I see someone else from the Left Coast is still up, Hi Kelly, Good Morning All. Hoping for another nice day. Love that Pacific fog that keeps us kool at night. Heard it's great for the grape crop.

By David Soumis (Davesou) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 07:16 am:

thqat'a a pretty cool visitors center. Lots of animals in there---stuffed ones.

And right up the road a bit is the ••••••.

By David Soumis (Davesou) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 07:17 am:

c-a-s-i-n-o is a bad word ????????

Hey David, No worry, you aren't cussing on the Pasty Cam....Actually, awhile back, before we had user registration, c-a-s-i-n-o WAS a bad word, as it was one of the words along with t-e-x-a-s and h-o-l-d-e-m and p-o-k-e-r, that were causing many hours of time to be spent deleting the S-P-A-M postings about those things. Of course there were a number of them about enhancement drugs too! So we banned those words, hoping to deter the postings at that time!

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 07:37 am:

Good Morning from very humid mid-Michigan, where it is going to warm up this afternoon!

Mikie & MsKatie, I'm sorry you all could not sleep! I was up at 5:00, but I didn't turn on my computer then. I wish I had, because I slept on my back and shoulder wrong after that.

For a bit of humor, Davesou, I found out that I was spelling dam wrong (as in using the wrong one) a couple of days ago when I got the mysterious red dots. I went to the dictionary to find the right one. :-) Your word is the right one, but it has something to do with Internet search terms, or something, if I remember right.

By Charles In Esky (Charlesinesky) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 08:15 am:

My wife and I are back from the terrific U.P. History Conference
held this past weekend at Ontonagon. One of the speakers was
Bill Haller of, I think, Calumet. He gave an illustrated talk on the
explosives factory that used to be at Senter. Was his talk good!
It was based on solid research and knowledge of the subject.
The talk was well-organized and delivered in a cogent and
interesting way, and the pictures were all integral to the story.
If you ever have a chance to hear Mr. Haller. please take
advantage of the opportunity. He's dynamite!

By Sharon I. Smith (Sharons) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 08:28 am:

MsKatie - You make me blush, but thank you. It will be a relief to get this all settled finally. It will be wrenching to give up the old homestead, but it's for a good cause.

By Brooke (Lovethekeweenaw) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 08:32 am:

Good Morning, muggy here too. Taking the kids to Metro Airport to fly to Nashville (them, not me, I'm heading north) They are excited to see the grandparents.

By Kelly Kidd (Ellykay) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 08:49 am:

Good Morning Beverly,
Kevin say's hello, and hopes you are doing well.
Been nice and cool here in the valley, cool being high 80's low 90's.

By Happy to be in the U.P. (Lahelo) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 12:18 pm:

Good Luck to you Sharon, you will make it! You have all of these years and you always came back! Will be waiting for your daily news on your website!
Have a safe trip to Detroit.
Take care,
Helen from Ontonagon

By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 12:50 pm:

Hey Charlie, you could have left Texas as a bad word; Lord knows there are plenty of other non-mentionables that could go along with it!! ;-)

For those of us not in the Houghton area, there was an interesting article in the Mining Gazette Friday concerning the replacement of the Italian Hall marker. It seems that some facts on that marker may need to be changed in light of new information concerning the direction of the doors opening during the Christmas party. Below is the link:

Thanks to fellow historian Steve "Death's Door" Lehto for emailing me the link....

By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 01:00 pm:

question: what time is the frisbee tournament on Sunday?

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 02:40 pm:

Not long ago, a couple of you were talking about UP speech patterns, accents, etc. You might be interested in an article in today's Houghton newspaper on "Yooperease":

By Brooke (Lovethekeweenaw) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:07 pm:

Capt., I think I heard somewhere the doors may have been blocked? Anyone else hear that? Since I work in doors I have used that as an example as to why public buildings swing out, just saying "do it, its the code" doesn't matter to people who don't get the why.

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 04:46 pm:

Brooke, that's what they are teaching in the lower grades in Michigan schools, that the doors were blocked.

By Steve Lehto (Slehto) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 05:27 pm:

The doors were not being held shut, nor were they blocked by anything. The overwhelming evidence is that the jam up on the stairs did not reach the doors. (It was a very long, steep staircase, with NO HANDRAILS.)

The building codes re: doors opening out came about because of the Iroquoius Theater fire in Chicago in 1903 -- when 600 (!) people died. There really was a fire and many of the exits were locked. Some opened the wrong way. That incident -- 5 years before the Italian Hall was built -- was the actual inspiration for the revised building codes (and the eventual development of "panic" hardware). I suspect a lot of people confuse the facts of the two events.


By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 07:30 pm:

Doesn't say much for the Michigan educational system if the so called history experts are teaching the wrong information. Ahhh, the MEA at work!! :P

I concur with Steve, from what I have read and sifted through, that the doors at the bottom were not blocked, locked, or chained shut. There is no way, with the mass of people pushing their way out, that a group of men or chains would have held up to that kind of power/weight. Also, every photo I have ever seen show the doors opening outward into the street, not inward as most people believe......

By Ken ja Mimi from da UP (Kenjamimi) on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 11:43 pm:

Were there TWO sets of doors at the botom of the stairs? The inner doors opened inward and the outer doors opened outward? I was in the building several times over the years. (wa-ay back!) Middle and later 50s, but I can't remember for sure.

By Steve Lehto (Slehto) on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 04:46 am:

Two sets of doors. Both sets opened outwards. The set at the foot of the stairs was removed a few decades before the building was torn down, but the doorframe to that set was way too close to the bottom stair -- if they had opened "inward" they wouldn't have been able to swing all the way (in other words, you could never get them to open because they'd hit the bottom stair!) The Daily Mining Gazette ran a copy of the photo that is on the cover of my book -- look at it: you can clearly see BOTH sets open out.


By kosk in Toronto (Koskintoronto) on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 07:52 am:


I just borrowed my father's copy of your book and am looking
forward to reading it.

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