Dec. 22, 2012 ??

Past-E-Mail: Various Topics: Politics and Religion, Ketchup or Gravy: Dec. 22, 2012 ??
Gustaf O. Linja (Gusso) on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 06:30 pm:

Is there any thing significant to the date Dec 22, 2012? According to astronomic research: Our earth will be aligned with the axis (center) of the Milky way galaxy as well as several planets in our solar system will be aligned with Earth. According to the Mayan Calendar, it will be the start of a new age and ancient Cherokee calendar has a similar mark of time. What do you think?

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 12:04 am:

How many of you heard about the Mayan calender. I have and may have something to write on it.Cherokee also.

By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 10:38 am:

...when the Moon is in the Seventh House, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, then Peace will guide the planets and Love will steer the Stars...I'll be interested to hear about this...keep it coming.

By Matt Karhu (Matt_k) on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 08:54 am:

I suppose there will be a lot of nonsense posted here now, like the visions recorded by the prophets in the Old Testament, and in the New Testament book of Revelation. Years ago I knew some "winos" who had similar visions. Come to thnk of it, wasn't wine the beverage of choice by the authors of the books of the Bible?

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 06:48 pm:

The Maya developed a sophisticated calendar. The ritual calendar that developed in Mesoamerica used a count of 260 days. This calendar gave each day a name, much like our days of the week. There were 20 day names, each represented by a unique symbol. The days were numbered from 1 to 13. Since there are 20 day names, after the count of thirteen was reached, the next day was numbered 1 again. The 260-day or sacred count calendar was in use throughout Mesoamerica for centuries, probably before the beginning of writing.

In Central America which now consists of Yucatan, Guatemala, Belize and southern Mexico (the Chiapas and Tabasco provinces). This whole area lies south of the tropic of Cancer, and north of the equator, and is about 900 kilometers from north to south and 550 kilometers in the east-west direction. Theirs was a true Stone Age Culture, although the Maya at the time of Spanish contact in the sixteenth century, did know about working with copper and gold. While the Spanish prized gold highly, the Maya venerated jade.

The Maya were quite accomplished astronomers. Their primary interest, in contrast to "western" astronomers, were Zenial Passages when the Sun crossed over the Maya latitudes. On an annual basis the sun travels to its summer solstice point, or the latitude of 23-1/3 degrees north.
Most of the Maya cities were located south of this latitude, meaning that they could observe the sun directly overhead during the time that the sun was passing over their latitude. This happened twice a year, evenly spaced around the day of solstice.

The Maya could easily determine these dates, because at local noon, they cast no shadow. Zenial passage observations are possible only in the Tropics and were quite unknown to the Spanish conquistadors who descended upon the Yucatan peninsula in the 16th century. The Maya had a god to represented this position of the Sun called the Diving God.

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The Maya developed a highly complex system of writing, using pictographs and phonetic or syllabic elements. A complete discussion of their writing system is beyond the scope of this paper. Their writing was highly sophisticated, probably only members of the higher classes were able to read their symbols. The Maya carved these symbols into stone, but the most common place for writing was probably the highly perishable books they made from bark paper, coated with lime to make a fresh white surface. These "books" were screen-folded and bound with wood and deer hide. They are called codices, codex is singular. Because of their perishable nature and zealous Spanish book burning, only four codices remain today.
The contents of the codices must have varied, but some of them were evidently similar to astronomic almanacs. We have examples of a Venus table, eclipse tables in a codex in Dresden. There is a codex in Paris that seems to contain some kind of Maya Zodiac, but if it is and how it must have worked are still unknown. Another major example of Maya almanacs are present in the Madrid Codex. The fourth codex is called the Grolier and was authenticated as late as 1983. These codices probably contained much of the information used by priests or the noble class to determine dates of importance or seasonal interest. We can only speculate as to whether or not the Maya developed poetry or drama that was committed to paper. The codices probably kept track of dynastic information as well.

The Milky Way itself was much venerated by the Maya. They called it the World Tree, which was represented by a tall and majestic flowering tree, the Ceiba. The Milky Way was also called the Wakah Chan. Wak means "Six" or "Erect". Chan or K'an means "Four", "Serpent" or "Sky". The World Tree was erect when Sagittarius was well over the horizon. At this time the Milky Way rose up from the horizon and climbed overhead into the North. The star clouds that form the Milky Way were seen as the tree of life where all life came from. Near Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy, where the World Tree meets the Ecliptic was given special attention by the Maya. A major element of the World Tree include the Kawak Monster, a giant head with a kin in its forehead. This monster was also a mountain or witz monster. A sacrificial bowl on its head contains a flint blade representing sacrifice, and the Kimi glyph that represents death. The Ecliptic is sometimes represented as a bar crossing the major axis of the world tree, making a form that is similar to the Christian Cross. On top of the World Tree we find a bird that has been called, the Principal Bird deity, or Itzam Ye. There is also evidence that shows the Sun on the World Tree as it appeared to the Maya at Winter Solstice.
During the months of winter, when the so-called "Winter" Milky Way dominates the sky, it was called the "White Boned Serpent." This part of the Milky Way passed overhead at night during the dry season. It is not brilliant like the star clouds that dominate the sky North of the equator during the months of Summer, but observers at dark locations will easily see the glow. Here the Ecliptic crosses the Milky Way again, near the constellation of Gemini which was the approximate location of the Sun during Summer Solstice. It is possible that the jaws of the White-Boned Serpent were represented by the Kawak monster head.

By Theresa R. Brunk (Trb0013) on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 05:07 pm:

The Mayan Calendar ends on December 21, 2012. Then, it is prophesized that the "God" who originally came to Earth and presented it to the Mayan's will return to give the ancients a new calendar.

By Jeff Kalember (Jeffkal) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 10:03 am:

Jack Van Impe, the TV televangelist said that this date "might" be the apocalypse.

By Matt Karhu (Matt_k) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 05:00 pm:

If I recall correctly, Jack Van Impe once was a Catholic, and an entertainer and recording artist with his accordion. Based on his recent halucinatory Biblical interpretations and theories, I think he should go back to playing his accordion.

By Jeff Kalember (Jeffkal) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 04:03 pm:

When Dave Hiltunen posts such a long essay as he did he should give credit where credit is due since he didnt write it.

By A. David Archibald (Yooperatheart61) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 04:40 pm:

Jeff -Tanks for link-interesting reading!

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 07:33 pm:

I now have two personal sectaries that on their day I will have to send flowers to.

By Jeff Kalember (Jeffkal) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 08:11 pm:

at least this secretary knows how to spell secretary, I'll forward my address for the flowers.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 09:50 pm:

Dave, explain how where you live has to do with your spelling. You don't want to appear to be smarter then your neighbors. The spelling is pure Tennesee as far as I can tell. Once nearly married a girl from around Dixon. Brought her up to Hubbelll and she made fun of the fact that we didn't have any traffic lights in our town. Hers had one at the time. Didn't marry her since once I got her on level land found out she had one leg longer then the other so she would stay level on the hill from her home town.

By David Hiltunen (Davidcorrytontn) on Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 10:01 pm:

It has been some time and a lot of water under the bridge since this thread seen action.
My spelling ain't got no worst. The end is near.

A sectarian; a member or adherent of a sect; a follower or disciple of some particular teacher in philosophy or religion; one who separates from an established church; a dissenter. sec·ta·ries
1. A sectarian.
2. A dissenter from an established church, especially a Protestant nonconformist.


[Medieval Latin sectrius, from Latin secta, sect; see sect.]

By Theresa R. Brunk (Trb0013) on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 04:15 pm:

Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural sec·re·tar·ies
Etymology: Middle English secretarie, from Medieval Latin secretarius, confidential employee, secretary, from Latin secretum secret, from neuter of secretus
Date: 15th century
1: one employed to handle correspondence and manage routine and detail work for a superior
2 a: an officer of a business concern who may keep records of directors' and stockholders' meetings and of stock ownership and transfer and help supervise the company's legal interests b: an officer of an organization or society responsible for its records and correspondence
3: an officer of state who superintends a government administrative department <the secretary of labor>
4 a: writing desk , escritoire b: a writing desk with a top section for books

Secretary's Day is now called Administration/ Professional’s Day and this year it is 4/22/09

I await the flowers and lunch.....

I thank you in advance.

By Theresa R. Brunk (Trb0013) on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 03:26 pm:

Well half of the day is over and I am still waiting on my Flowers and Lunch Gift certificate... ;(

By FJL (Langoman) on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 10:12 am:

It will always be known as "Secretaries Day." I may be stretching it a bit but a plumber is not a secretary. Therefore, no flowers..........FJL

By Theresa R. Brunk (Trb0013) on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 05:05 pm:

I do not tag myself as a secretary. That distinction has been gracefully set upon me by Mr. David H. due to my correcting him on his sources for his eloquent postings, that others have attributed to him but were in fact cut and pasted from the internet. See his above post for the flowers reference from January 19, 2008. (Which I did not receive) This year, nor last.

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