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Charlie at Pasty Central (Chopper) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 06:32 am:

I didn't take many of the shots during the early years of the Pasty Cam, but this happens to be one that I did. Edie and I took a drive around Presque Isle in Marquette and were impressed with this pavilion. Though eight years ago, it seems like last week.

By Smfwlk (Trollperson) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 06:33 am:

First Post

By Paul Oesterle (Paulwebbtroll) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 06:47 am:

Good morning! TGIF! Breezy here!

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 06:48 am:

Good Morning, Everyone! Happy Friday! TGIF !!!

By Alex "UP-Goldwinger" (Alex) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 07:57 am:

Ah yes, the pavillion. Walked by it many times during my hikes on Presque Isle.

By Jeff Kalember (Jeffkal) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 08:28 am:

I can't even begin to count the number of days I spent out at Presque Isle. Running, mountain biking, exploring, cross country skiing, rock jumping, breakwall walking ... I hear the "zoo" is gone now right?

By CAL, Oshkosh WI (Cal) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 08:57 am:

Jeff, yes the zoo was gone on my last visit UP to Marquette (summer '06). When I saw today's pic I knew it was familiar even before seeing the description. I also spent many wonderful hours in that park. The Black Rocks are one of my favorite spots on Earth!

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 09:00 am:

Good morning everybody! It's another freezing day in MN. Can't wait until tomorrow when it's going to be even worse.

By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 09:34 am:

thanks Capn Paul and Barb for the info and picture about snow buntings. That is definitely what it was. Never saw one here before.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 09:39 am:

Cold here but very sunny, got awakened early this morning by my daughter Dani saying my grandson has pink eye and the school is sending him home. He came over here and I guess I will have pink eye this weekend. Joseph is doing well, he was in pretty bad shape last year and now he is this three year old who can twist this old man around his finger. Good health has returned to him and he sure takes advantage of it. The toy room will be a disaster as soon as his snack is over. Bannana and some peanut butter cheese crackers. Allready cleaned him up and now he is eating again. Hope one of his parents comes over before he has to have a diaper changed. Haven't done that in some time. I built him a potty chair and he wont even look at it. Just wonders why I want him to use it he has a puzzled look on his face when I tell him about it. He sure isn't like his brother Tim, Kenny just walked in and he will be taking Joe to the doctor. Now I have to disinfect the kitchen table where he was setting. My eyes are starting to hurt, it must be physosemactic [sp] as I have been washing my hands. Better clean off my keyboard also.

By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 09:39 am:

Regarding yesterday's discussion about depression: it is wise to avoid the drugs, especially for "situational" depression. But it is also foolhardy to discount their benefit for clinical depression which is a chemical imbalance. As a school counselor I saw some amazing results in children who were despondent, in spite of their circumstance, support, life style, etc. As has been well publicized, everyone taking these medications is well advised to get counseling as well, and caregivers need to monitor extremely closely for adverse effects, especially in young people.

By Laurie B. (Ratherberiding) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 10:01 am:

All the pictures of Marquette make me lonesome for home. Presque Isle is a favorite. My youngest daughter was married there last summer. Makes me think of many summer rides around the "Island" on our Goldwing.

By Serena Sturm (Serena) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 11:33 am:

TGIF! Very cold here in SE MI today.

By JH (Thumbgardener) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 12:02 pm:

Maija, I agree with you 100%. Not every one needs these drugs, but for some people it can be life saving. I have seen the difference in some friends and family members that the right medication can make.

By Snowman (Snowman) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 12:24 pm:

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.

By Tom (Tom) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 12:28 pm:

It must be assumed that one cannot get these anti-depressant drugs without a doctor's precrip.
Thus that doctor should be familiar with your problem. There are many warnings on the prescription statement you receive from the pharmacy and from the doctor. What to watch for and to contact your doctor ASAP. Young people must be carefully watched because of the incidence of suicide. They are not for everyone by any means. Nor do they need to be taken forever. Unless you are like me. Constant pain day after day tends to make me wish I was dead.
I really don't want to get into that part.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:05 pm:

Tom I also live in constant pain. There is no cure. I do take tonic water and lime and it cuts the edge off the pain enough to let me sleep. The tonic water also stops the night time cramps. You know the ones where you jump, or like me crawl out of bed and try to walk off the cramp. Since my son in law, a doctor, told me to drink tonic water I don't have the cramps at all, and the joints don't seem to hurt as much.

By Janie T. (Bobbysgirl) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:06 pm:

We have a neighbor lady that is bi-polar, that poor woman is a mess, all the meds she is taking leaves her in a "chemical straight-jacket".

By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:55 pm:

My sister-in-law's brother-in-law taught me a trick for relieving below-the-knee leg cramps. Lie on your back and pull your foot up toward your knee. Hold like this and release slowly. If the cramp comes back, bring foot up again.

It works like a charm!

By maija in Commerce Township (Maija) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:56 pm:

I don't mean "pull" your foot up with your hand, just point it up toward your knee.

By Matt Karhu (Matt_k) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 04:05 pm:

For those posting comments about suffering with pain, etc., being acquainted with several people who suffered with pain caused by severe inuries from accidents, it was my observation that they reduced their dependence on pain-killing drugs by realizing their limitations and finding things that they could do, not what they did before and tried vainly to continue doing. They also were able to reduce their visits to therapists when they accepted the fact that they were no longer physically the person they once were. Interestingly, it appeared to me that they found some relief by attending church; perhaps they received some needed spiritual healing that benefitted them physically.

By Snowman (Snowman) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 05:32 pm:

Why don't some of you try this natural cure;

Dogs have long had special standing in the medical world. Trained to see for the blind, hear for the deaf and move for the immobilized, dogs have become indispensable companions for people with disabilities.

But dogs appear to be far more than four-legged health care workers. Over the years, data on the larger role dogs play in health has trickled out from various corners of the world. One Japanese study found pet owners made 30 percent fewer visits to doctors. A Melbourne study of 6,000 people showed that owners of dogs and other pets had lower cholesterol, blood pressure and heart attack risk compared with people who didnąt have pets. Obviously, the better health of pet owners could be explained by a variety of factors, but many experts believe companion animals improve health at least in part by lowering stress.

Dogs, in particular, also have been shown to do remarkable things to improve the health of their owners. There are stories of dogs warning their owners of imminent health threats. In 2003, University of Florida researchers published a report in the journal Seizure noting that some dogs seem to have an innate ability to detect impending seizures. A 2000 report in the British Medical Journal examined case studies of dogs alerting people with diabetes of a coming hypoglycemic episode.

More recently, some studies have suggested dogs can be cancer detectors. In 2006, the medical journal Integrative Cancer Therapies reported how ordinary house dogs could identify breast and lung cancer patients by smelling their breath. A University of Maine study is testing whether dogs can sniff out ovarian cancer.

Pain gone in a "WOOF".

By Theresa R. Brunk (Trb0013) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 07:32 pm:

Gee whizz all I asked was to keep my daughter in everyone's daily prayers... the thought that it has lead to all this discussion on depression and drugs (whether to use them or not) and the chronic pain reliefs and home remedies... Man I love this web site :) has really brought me to the conclusion that we are diverse in our dreams and political aspirations along with an undying love and faith in our county. This alone has brought me out of my depression lol... I remain, as Walter P states....Theresa B

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 08:45 pm:

Glad you're feeling better Theresa, lol!!!

By Russell E. Emmons (Russemmons) on Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 02:05 am:

One VERY important factor to all this depression, pain, health situations not always acknowledged by the medical people is vitamin deficiencys! Besides all the organs & muscles of the body the brain needs proper nutrition to function properly. American diets are sorely lacking in the minimum daily requirements of vitamins & minerals no matter how well one eats. Read the mandatory ingredient/nutrient tables on food packages you will find very little vitamins, minerals and even proteins in todays foods. With just a little math one can realize if you eat enough food to get the vitamins daily needed you would be 400 pounds! B vitamins are needed for proper mental well being, particulary B6 & B12. Note recent news casts telling of B12 actually making one smarter! Zinc & Selenium are beneficial & necessary for mental well being, Zinc being helpful for the memory and the sex drive! So many people are actually walking around borderline anemic because of all this. Read the symptoms of anemia, see for yourself! Iron deficiency anemia, and/or low blood count manifests in a myriad of mental and physical ailments!
Low blood sugar, (hypoglycemia), though not the same as lowblood count, or vitamin deficiency definitely affects the mental process. The two then often go hand in hand from diet insufficiencys.
Don't get me going on herbs and natural remedys---they do work! Kevin Trudeau is right on!

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