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Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:27 am:

Good Monday morning!

By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:38 am:

Morning :-)

By Margaret, Amarillo TX (Margaret) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 08:44 am:

Morning =;-P

By Sunrise Side MI (Ilovelucy2) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 09:46 am:

Good Monday Morning to All!!

By JARMO ITNIEMI (Japei) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 09:53 am:

Travel in FINLAND;

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:36 am:

Guten Morgen, is that how you spell it Mikie? Have no clue how to put the two dots over the "u"! Oh boy, hope I didn't open up a can of worms.

By Danbury (Danbury) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:44 am:

Mayhap - what's that about two dots over the "u"?
That'd be french pronounciation, phonetically.

By Cotton (Cotton) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:38 am:

That picture is of Mary McMahon, one of the greeters at Walmart in Houghton. She has such a pleasant, friendly personality & a big smile for everyone who comes into Walmart. She also has a twin brother Mike who also is well known by many in this area. He also has a great personality & charm like his sister.


By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:04 am:

The two dots are called (sp) oomlaus, if the vowel has the dots over it you have to roll your tongue and do all sorts of facial contortions to pronounce the word.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:20 am:

Joanie, I think you are right but the spelling might be a little wrong, but I can't find my German/English dictionary. Happy Birthday Laurie, hope you have many more. Cotton you are getting a little like me putting things in the wrong place, and being corrected for doing it. Beutiful gray day here in Berkley hoping for snow soon so Abby can have her fort.

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:24 am:

oomlaus(?) = umlaut (singular), umlauts (plural).
See also diaresis (singular), diareses (plural).
Like so: [ ]
(Oh no, not another 3rd° headache?)

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:34 am:

FRNash, Danka for the German lesson! How do you get the cute graphics on your messages?

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:44 am:

Joanie, Self portrait. Sorry Frank couldn't help my self.

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 11:48 am:

Wow, he must have jaundice!

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:05 pm:

Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie):
"... Danka for the German lesson!"

Danka = Danke (Ger.) .

Well it wasn't so much a German lesson, as just
plain 'ol grammar - diacritics.

Note that [ ] are used in Finnish too.

By Michael Du Long (Mikie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:34 pm:

Frank, Danka is used in certain parts of Germany, mainly around the G.I.s it is kind of Americanized German. Although the Danke is the proper way to spell it, a similar word here is "ain't for isn't" this was explained to me by the good Professor Laub PHD in 1967 when I lived in Kaiserslautern. I was fairly fluent in Deutch, but have lost a lot since not speaking it every day. Joanie and I were both exposed to the common German and not the High German that is written.

By WishingIWasInDaUP (Sur5er) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 02:29 pm:

Mikie, my maternal grandmother was German and she pronounced 'thank you' as "Danka". I guess it must be like the English language, with different areas pronouncing words differently, eh ;)

By Paul Oesterle (Paulwebbtroll) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:02 pm:

These German lessons today remind me of 1996 when my wife and I retired. We were going to Europe for 30 days. We thought it only proper that we attempt to know a little German before we went. Soo-o-o__we signed up for a 6 week German class at Lansing CC! Wow! There are several different dialects. High, low, in between and what ever. I made it through 4 classes and became a dropout. My wife stuck it out. We went to Amsterdam, Stockholm, Hamburg, Berlin and many more places. We took a cruise up the Rhine, ended up in Switzerland, Italy, Monaco,(nude beach) and a really fast train ride across France to Paris. We arrived in Paris the same day that half of Paris was starting their summer vacation and the other half was getting back from theirs! We were fortunate to have 2 former exchange students who had lived with my in laws for guides in Stockholm and Hamburg. But every place we went most everyone spoke English. We had some problems with a few French people who made believe they didn't/couldn't understand or speak english, but we had a great time and really enjoyed all of our trip. The hardest part of the trip was dropping a 1000 (about .75 cents US) lira bill in the tip basket at the Italian rest rooms! All so quite a shock when the dinner for two check was for 32,000 lira at a nice dining room there!

By Pennie (Trolldiva) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 03:18 pm:

I hope so to Mikie, Abby wants some snow so that we can build a fort. I however am good with the beautiful temps we are having today.

By Ms. Katie (Mskatie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:27 pm:

Boy are we lucky to have several smarties ( errr intellectuals) in the pasty cam bunch! Me ? I think a smile is universal and a little courtesy is the best side of Americans, to show we're nice too. Really, thanks everyone!

By Gonna be a Yooper (Joanie) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 04:56 pm:

Amen Ms. Katie, well said!

By JanieT (Bobbysgirl) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 07:44 pm:

In the 5 years in school that I took German classes, Thankyou was spelled Danke. My teachers were Frau Gardner and Herr Eschbach, both were born and raised in Germany.

By Ken ja Mimi from da UP (Kenjamimi) on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 10:07 pm:

Here's a list I use when I need to put the umlauts in a sentence. At least for Finnish. With the number keypad locked 'on', and while holding the 'alt' button, press:
alt 142 for , alt 153 for , alt 143 for ,
alt 132 for , alt 148 for , alt 134 for ,
When you release the alt button, the letter will be there. You're welcome!

By Danbury (Danbury) on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 03:53 am:

Umlauts? Sorry, but that looks just creepy.:) Proper german plural would be "Umlaute". Except for the high north of Germany, where local dialect uses the english plural -s, so perhaps they'd say "Umlauts".
For "thank you", use "Danke schn", or "Danke" for just thanks, if one wants to consider the finer points. Also in use by some is the phrase "Dank dir" - translates as thank you. Down here where I am, locals often enough just say "merci" - "Danke" in French! (The border is some 20 miles away.)
No umlaute in "Guten Morgen", by the way. No face twisties necessary, either.
About 50% of the german population are able to speak english at least to a certain degree, with the percentage being higher in the west - out east, try russian. Might get you further.

By Danbury (Danbury) on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 04:10 am:

Sorry, forgot a few things. Kenjamimi, thanks for the /-shortcut - never figured that one out.
Paul, ok, other countries, other customs, but what's so shocking about a 24$ dinner for two? Sounds fair enough to me.
And as to "Danka" - never heard it used in Germany. Only times I heard it was when, well, americans tried to say "Danke"! :)

By Paul Oesterle (Paulwebbtroll) on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 11:47 am:

Danbury, your right. I neglected to include the fact that the exchange rate at that time was about 1800 lira for $1.00 American I believe. It just really made you nervous to see a dinner bill for 32,000!!

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 12:52 pm:

Danbury (Danbury):
"Umlauts? Sorry, but that looks just creepy.:) Proper german plural would be "Umlaute"."


Just to clarify, my previous post re: umlaut(s) & diaresis/diereses (the latter a spelling variant of diaeresis/diaereses) was not intended to be a German lesson, but simply a reference to the common linguistics/grammar/phonetics/diacritical marks/diacritics/accent marks as used in many common English language dictionaries.

By Danbury (Danbury) on Monday, June 7, 2010 - 04:28 am:

Just stumbled upon this. That's why there's the smiley in there, FRNash. :)

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