May 29-02

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2002: May: May 29-02
Moose in the U.P.    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Lyn Rayrat

By Lyn Rayrat on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 08:29 am:

Last weekend I went to Paradise and to see the Tahquanemon Falls once again. While there I spotted these two moose along the side of the road on 123. Within minutes these moose had about 20 people taking their pictures and they didn't seem to mind a bit. They were just standing there in the water, posing pretty watching all of us very closely. This picture was taken 4 miles from Paradise on 123.


By Moose Man. : on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 08:36 am:

Congratulations, it is very rare to get a Moose Pic , how cool !!!


By Jeff- VA. on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 08:43 am:

Hope I get to see them in August .


By H. Donn de Yampert on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 09:41 am:

Congratulations, this is one of the special sights that I seek during my travels of the UP of Michigan. Aren't we lucky folks to live here?


By MajesticKeweenaw on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 11:53 am:

That is such a great shot. I now have this as my wallpaper. I love moose! Thanks


By bn on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 11:57 am:

isnt there a place called helltown by fulton.what a wonderful site of the moose.


By T.D. on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:14 pm:

This is just incredible. I had no idea that there were moose in the U.P. Must have been quite an experience for you to seem them and to take the picture you did.


By Cousin Jack on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 01:08 pm:

There used to be a place called Helltown somewhere between Central and Lac La Belle(near the Montreal river?)where local miners used to drink and carouse. I've tried to locate any surviving remains of the place on a couple of occasions but have come up empty.
Anyone out there know exactly where that Helltown may have been situated?


By Yooper in Indiana on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 01:31 pm:

If memory serves me right take a right on the first road past the Montreal going towards LacLaBelle. One use to get there at the intersection of 41 and the LacLaBelle road until the intersection was changed a blue moon ago.


By Karen P. MN on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 01:44 pm:

My parents used to tell the story that the towns of Ishpeming and Negaunee were Indian names meaning Heaven and Hell. I don't remember which is which. Does anyone know if this is true? Or is this just a regional story told by non-residents?


By Yooper in Indiana on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 01:56 pm:

Any recent sightings of moose on the Keweenaw, other than at Isle Royale, which legally is a part of Keweenaw County. How many are estimated to be in the Keweenaw?


By Mike R. New Berlin, WI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 03:31 pm:

From what I hear,and read, Negaunee means Lower Place.


By Mary Ann, IN on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 03:36 pm:

We are heading to the Keweenaw next week and are hoping to see moose. How exciting to have a "Moose" spotting on Pasty Central today. Can't wait to join you all. The U.P. is my "Paradise" on earth!

Mary Ann
Bloomington, IN


By Brant, IL on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 03:46 pm:

My grandparents owned a vacation property near Paradise. When I was a child we lived in Detroit. Every summer the family would bypass Hell on the way to Paradise. We never saw moose in those days. It is nice to know they are back. Thanks for another great pasty cam picture!


By Lyn Rayrat on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:05 pm:

It sure was nice to be able to see these moose. They actually stayed in the same spot for 20 minutes. They were about 30 feet from the road and I kept walking close to ensure that I would get somewhat of a close-up. I kept walking closer to the moose and they never moved, finally I had to stop or I would be in the water. The bigger of the two stood at least five and a half feet tall and looked to weigh around 600 pounds or more. The pictures do no justice, it is one of those things that you need to see for yourself. So to everyone hoping to find a moose, keep your eyes open when passing water or swampy areas.


By Sarah O'Malley, Utica, MI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:36 pm:

Funny how you know you're in michigan when you have all four seasons in one day, and can go from Hell to Paradise in one day! (or sometimes Paradise to Hell...depending on your mood) :o)


By john carleson on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:28 pm:

yeah majestic i hear you.i have it for my wall paper 2. the moose are so cool wish i was there to see them 2. maybe next time, eh?


By Paul in Illinois on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:34 pm:

Helltown is just accross the Montreal from Delaware. It was officially named Wyoming but since it was off mining company property, this suburb of Delaware was home to a variety of forbiden fruits such as saloons, gambling, and the occasional soiled dove. The local unofficial name was Helltown. The county used to have a rustic sign indicating where Helltown is but gave up trying to keep it in place since it was very popular as a dorm room or frathouse sign. Same problem with Schlitz Creek west of Eagle River - the sign wouldn't last very long. Helltown/Wyoming road is right after the Montreal River bridge on the Lac la Belle road to your right as you head towards Lac la Belle. There are/were a couple of cottages back there.


By me on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:42 pm:

Moose are cool to look at...but you actually got out of your car to walk up to them? Count your blessings they weren't in rutting season...you may not have been able to get the picture in! Remember folks...these are nice to look at, but they are still WILD ANIMALS!


By john carleson on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:45 pm:

where is paradise located in the u.p.? i have only been to escanaba and dont really know so please tell me if u can.


By Cousin Jack on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:50 pm:

Thanks for the Helltown info. I know that some summer in the 1960's I once saw that sign which is probably what aroused my curiosity in the first place. Come to think of it, I seem to remember seeing the Schlitz Creek sign in someone's Wadsworth Hall dorm room a long time ago too.
Enjoyed seeing the "meese" from Paradise as well.


By Lyn Rayrat on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:53 pm:

Moose are only aggressive when they have their young with them. Moose will only charge you if they feel threatned or if you come to close to their young. A bull moose can be a little more aggressive, but the chance of seeing one is slim. The bull moose stays deep in the woods and the best place to see a bull would be Isle Royale.


By L.R. on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:11 pm:

Rutting season is from September to late October.


By Nancy Nelson, WI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:25 pm:

Wonderful picture. I have not managed to see a moose on my last two visits to Isle Royale. Of course, one teeny contributing factor to that might be that this summer I found out how old I have become, and got a mega dose of recollection as to how difficult the hiking is out there. Combination of the two factors meant that I didn't make it anywhere near where the meeses were likely to be spotted. So glad to see that the reintroduction seems to be working in the UP


By Martha K., Pinckney, MI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:51 pm:

Hey, now. No cracks about my neighbors down the road in Hell. It's a pretty little place, too, with winding creeks, lakes, woods, deer, motorcycles, hod rods, ghosts and vampires, whatever you want, except moose. If you're curious, here's its official web site: www.hell2u.com


By Rick Throstle on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 07:28 pm:

Yes, ME, moose are wild animals but they are no threat to humans and even during rutting season they wont hurt anyone unless like lyn said if you come near their young. they will fight with another moose but I dont recommend going up to one and trying to pet him (you would be crazy) some moose weigh up to 1600lbs. and could plow you over and really hurt u. imagine 1600lbs coming at you...ooooouuch!!!!!!!


By Jean on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 08:30 pm:

Last spring we saw moose in about the same area, what time of day was this picture shot? We saw them in the evening and that night there were three of them the bull, the cow and the calf. The following morning as we left Paradise we saw them again in about the same area.


By DENNIS JARVI FENTON MI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 08:45 pm:

MY FRIEND AND I WERE UP AT COPPER HARBOR DOING SOME FISHING AND WE SAW 3 MOOSE IN THE SHALLOW WATER ON DEER LAKE. TOOK A PICTURE, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THEM REAL WELL. FIRST MOOSE FOR ME.
BUT WE DID CATCH SOME PIKE, LARGEST WAS 36 IN. AND 10 1/2 LBS.


By Dave, Stockbridge, MI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 09:21 pm:

We live just a few miles west of Hell. And it was mighty warm down here today. But I was walking in the woods today and it was heavenly. Our daughter is home from MTU and it is great having her home. But I just Love every chance and excuse to come get up your way, moose or no moose.


By Lyn Rayrat on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 09:21 pm:

Hi Jean..
It was around 2:30 and wish I would have seen a bull moose. What a nice shot that would have been.


By L.R. on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 09:56 pm:

Last September in Copper Harbor near the shoreline of Lily Lake I saw two moose, but I left my camera in the car!!! Another time I was on Cliff Drive and saw a beautiful black bear, but by the time I grabbed my camera he was long gone in the woods. This past weekend I hiked along the trails in the Estivant Pines and saw many fresh bear prints, but no bears to be found. Better have your camera ready at all times, because you never know when you may see one of the many beautiful animals here in the U.P.


By EM - MI on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:19 pm:

Did anyone ever hear the tourist promotional-Before you go to Paradise Or Hell-Come to Mass?Does anyone know the names of the guys in the picture of the Mass City Band?


By Ken from da UP on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 12:49 am:

Many years ago a couple of us guys went to Hell. :o) Just after you turn off 41 to go to Lac La Belle, it's on the right side, around the corner. All we saw were foundations, I think. Hey, Toivo from Toivola, do you have a map of that intersection? Kiitos.


By Ken from da UP on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 12:53 am:

Used to be a place called Helltown near Quincy, too. Back behind the # 2 shafthouse. Do you remember that, RCW?


By Paul Jackson Orange CA on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 01:19 am:

Another deviation from the picture of the moose which was outstanding and more on Helltown.
There is a book called "In the Sight of God" which was republished and edited by Helen Holman Smith and copyrighted in 1976 from an original publication in 1924. The book was published by the Denim Press in Dollar Day. The scene of the story is Helltown and was once banned from the C&H lirary. There is a neat map of the Keweenaw and Helltown location on the book cover. Paul from Illinois was right on as far as the location and I can remember my Dad taking me in there in the late 30's. Not much there then, I'm sure alot less now.


By ILMHitCC on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 01:40 am:

Great to see a U.P. moose pic, but if anyone wishes a close-up shot of a moose, get a zoom lens. Some good moose info:

http://www.state.ak.us/adfg/wildlife/geninfo/game/agmoose.htm


By paul johnson, Sarajevo, Bosnia on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 04:55 am:

Moose are cool, I first saw them on Isle Royale and am glad they are in the Keweenaw again.


By RCW $ Bay on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 07:12 am:

Sure do Ken, and its still there, called Coburntown , RIGHT???


By Karen P, MN on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 08:41 am:

To John Carlson: Escanaba is on the Michigan side of the UP. Houghton/Hancock and the Keewenau is the west end of the Superior side. Paradise is on the east end of the Superior side south of Whitefish Point. If you look at the Pasty.net logo, the right-most finger on the keyboard points to Paradise.

Thanks Mike R New Berlin. I always thought the the story of Heaven & Hell, Ishpeming & Negaunee, sounded hokey


By Lyn R. on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 10:06 am:

ILMHitCC,
I do have a zoom lens, 10x, but I just got this digital camera and every time I use it, the picture is blurry. I don't know what I am doing wrong yet and thats why it is good to read the instructions :)


By H.C. Mi on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 11:27 am:

Since the subject is moose, there is a wonderful childrens book called "Honk the Moose" by Phil & Virginia Strong. It is a true story and is Published by Trellis Publishing, Inc. PO Box 16141 Duluth, MN 55816.
This Pasty.com is the most addicting site on the internet. I have to check it every day to see what is next. I spent 3 years in Hancock going to nursing school and it was great despite the abundant snow. Most people who visit the Keweenaw don't see all there is to see if they stick to the main roads. There is so much more!!! I get this urge every summer to get there. Last summer we cruised the Portage to see the fireworks in Lake Linden. The next day we went to the parade in L.L. and then to Gay. Got to get back this summer!!!


By Mary Ann, IN on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 04:57 pm:

H.C. Thanks for the info. about "Honk the Moose." I am looking for animal books and lighthouse books for my little friends while I am in MI. I called my local library to find out about reading level for this book, and they thought it was out of print. I e-mailed Trellis hoping I might be able to get it through them. Wish me luck, otherwise I will be shopping for other animal books for children. I'm sure I will have plenty to choose from no matter what.

Mary Ann
Bloomington, IN


By Mary on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 07:31 pm:

Mary Ann in Bloomington,
Type in "Honk the Moose" on a Google search.....you'll find it there! Here's the addy for one of the places: http://honkthemoose.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? Just click on it and it'll take you to the page to order the book!
Good Luck!


By David H. St. Clair Shores Mi on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 12:24 am:

Back around in 89 or 90,i was driving south from Dollar Bay,with my Southern Hillbilly women beside me.I'am a Northern hillbilly.All of a sudden she started ooh-ing & a aah-ing. I asked,"What's the matter"?She said,"I just saw Bullwinkle." We were south of the Van Riper State Park Campground, not long after sun-up.At the campground they have the head of a Moose in behind glass.Belive it may have been one of the 1st.to have had a tracking device put around it's neck.I have been around some mean Whitetail deer.Don't know why these big guys would be any different,in or out of the Rut.Belive the name wild animal, has some meaning to it.


By Alice, Ventura, CA on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 03:13 am:

H.C. MI, when did you go to nursing school in Hancock? My cousin, Joanne Erickson went there too, maybe around late 50s, early 60s.


By Wildlife Biologist - MI on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 12:47 pm:

Heed "Me's" word! I have seen a cow moose plow over a well-meaning tourist photographer when she got too close - and it was more than 40-50 feet!! Great shot, but I would consider yourself lucky if you got that close and did not get injured. C'mon folks, these ARE wild animals and can be unpredictable at ANY time. Just my .02!


By l.r. on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 05:15 pm:

Yes Wildlife Biologist,
You are correct that people should keep your distance, but the moose were near the road and my truck was 2 feet from me with the door open. I am not ignorant when it comes to taking precautions when dealing with wildlife. I have been around many WILD animals my whole life and know just how unpredictable they can be. But thanks for your advice and my uncle is also a wildlife biologist and has warned me all of the dangers.


By Mike, GOM on Sunday, June 9, 2002 - 09:55 am:

Beautiful shot, I've lived in the Keweenaw for 13 years now and have yet to see one. My wife saw one near Michigammee her first trip up to da UP around 10 at night...before she knew what moose looked like. Her words were "You grow the biggest deer I've ever seen up here!" Well, maybe this summer will be my turn..


By Tami, Flint, MI on Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 11:15 am:

We saw a baby moose pulling weeds from the banks of the river at Seney national wildlife refuge on a canoe trip. It was awesome.


By JP Dolata, WI on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:04 am:

Concerning Helltown, my 92 year-old mother inlaw loaned me a somewhat dark novel by the name of "In the Sight of God", pub 1924, which is based mostly in Helltown around 1900. The author is Jacob Wendell Clark, and the book was recopyrighted in 1976 by Helen Holman Smith, Denim Press, Dollar Bay, MI

I find it as fascinating to mine history, as some do to mine gold, and have been investigating anything that can be found about Bete Grise and the nearby Mendota Mine. Many have been helpful in this research toward the writing of my novel.

Good luck to BN in finding Helltown, and to the moose, (meese?) for the coming winter.


By Sherry of CA on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 07:43 pm:

Can anyone tell me anything about Helltown, cA?



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