November 2001

Past-E-Mail: November 2001
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Arnold Schwab, Michigan on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 06:30 pm:

After only two days in transit, our order of 6 Pastys was received today in time for dinner. They were beautiffully packed and exceptionally delicious, the best we have ever eaten! It is a real delight to find this source which will satisfy our Pasty craving in the future. You have, indeed, found another very satisfied customer.

By Jennifer Perry, New York City on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 04:00 pm:

I grew up in Michigan, but live in New York City. No one has ever heard of a pasty, unless of course you speak to someone from England. My father used to buy pasties from a shop in Detroit called Jean's pasty shop. Has anyone ever heard of it???? That recipe was my favorite, but I just bought some of yours to ship here to NY, so can't wait to try them. I also ordered a T-Shirt which I am sure will stir up a lot of questions in NY.
Jennifer Perry

By Susan Formenti, California on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 12:39 pm:

I visit the Pasty Web page almost everyday just to enjoy the beautiful photos. I especially like the Wallpaper of the week section and can't wait for updates of the winter scenes. Thanks for a great web page and yummy pasties.

By Mike-Transplanted Yooper-Redford, MI on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 12:22 pm:

Well, the UP made the news again down here in
"Lowper Land" Over the weekend there were alot
of layoffs at the Empire Mine near Marquette.
My heart goes out to my fellow yoopers who are
out of work. Not always good news to hear,
especially just before Christmas. Hang in there

By Jan Medved Wis on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 09:06 pm:


By Charlie at Pasty Central on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 12:38 pm:


An interesting idea (see next note). We'll have to look into it. It's been a challenge just keeping up with the zip codes on the pasty order map!


By Mark Moen, Chicago on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 10:06 am:

Dear Charlie,

I check the Pasty Cam almost every day, and although I remember visiting during my time at Michigan Tech ('79-'83) some of the places you show, my recollection of just where things are located is fading. Most of the names are familiar but I just can't place the place.

So, the thought occurred to me that it might be nice to add a map feature to the Pasty Cam to help orientate the non-native and fuzzy-memory visitors. I suppose a link to MapQuest or some other street finder service would work, but maybe someone could come up with an application that could use a USGS map that would show more map detail. Then, each Cam picture could have a "Cam Map" button, a la "Cam Notes", that would bring up a map showing where the photo was taken within the Copper Country. Of course this feature would be disabled on days you post a mystery spot photo.

Just a thought. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the snow shots.

By jon arten saipan mp 96950 on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 05:49 am:

Thank you for a great web site. It is the second day off deer season and i miss the great northwoods and my buds and the old bus deer camp. thanks again
Jon M. Arten
Saipan M.P.

By Beverly on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 08:02 am:

Dear Gail (Little Rick's Gail),
Thanks for clueing me in to this brings back some wonderful first I wasn't spelling it correctly....All I could think of was, "What's up with this & why did Gail send me to this site.....glad I finally found the correct site...!!" Although, I'm thinking that Rick & Dennis may have enjoyed the other site more!

Hope to see you soon.

Beverly (The One Dating Dennis!!!!)

By Carol in Michigan on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 09:24 pm:

I read the article in the Detroit Free Press about pasties and I was so excited to see that I could order them online. HOWEVER, I typed in and, needless to say, this PORN site appeared on my screen. I quickly got off the site and typed in and found you. I laughed so hard after. I just wonder how many others have made the same mistake?? I plan to order not only pasties, but thimbleberry jam, chow-chow, will be just like being home again. Keep up the good work. So many places to visit up there online!!!

By Shayne on Sunday, November 11, 2001 - 05:31 am:

Gerritt, I won't be home till December now. So it looks like I miss rifle season this year...rats! I can't wait for a sauna though. Thailand is like a sauna 8 months of the year though. No pasties. Still hasn't snowed yet....going on december too. Holy wuh!

Email me your "secret" spots, I will prolly bow hunt or muzzle-load. Ice fishing baby! yeah!!!!

ps I finally bought some land in the UP. AAbout time. When are you moving back?

By Gerritt , mich. on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 05:50 am:

Deer season is coming to Elo! Pasties , sauna and hunting.I can't wait. Hey Shayne. I got some new secret...(SHHHHHH)...spots to try.

By Howard Keskitalo on Thursday, November 8, 2001 - 10:36 pm:

How much do your pasties weigh? We should have some idea of their size before we order.

Howard - The order form itself says that the pasties are 14-16 ounces in size. We added a statement of weight on the "pre" order page, so folks will know this BEFORE they go to the order form. Thanks for the suggestion.

By Frank, Illinois on Thursday, November 8, 2001 - 10:01 pm:

To Charlie and the gang at Still Waters:

I ordered 6 pasties last week to ship this Tuesday. Wednesday, I got the nicest order shipment acknowledgement from Becky. Moments later, the pasties arrived--one day early--yippee!

You make THE best pasties, bar none. YUM!

I *love* what Frank said above, that "Pastytonight is better than chicken delight". Ya sure!

All in all, you all did an excellent job, the service was excellent, and the pasties were even better.

Peace and blessings to all at Still Waters and my fellow PastyCam-ers...


Thanks Frank!

By Frank Picotte California on Thursday, November 8, 2001 - 08:57 pm:

Just received my pasty order. ordered them monday and received them thursday (today) thanks again Still Waters well done.Pastytonight is better than chicken delight. Frank Picotte California

By Ken Ruona- Michigan on Wednesday, November 7, 2001 - 11:13 pm:

By: Ken Ruona-Michigan
Love your website.
My fathers family lived in Toivola between 1915 and 1928. Would love to hear from Helmi Vachon Courtade whos mother lived there around the same time.

By Stan Kotajarvi on Wednesday, November 7, 2001 - 02:03 pm:

I keep checking your website nearly every day and am continually impressed with the photos and the vast amount of information about the Copper Country.
Just a note for you to check the link on your Golden Pasty Award for Granite Island Light House. When I click on it, I get the home page for the Portage Health System. Just thought you would want to know.
Keep up the great work you are doing.
Please pass on my greeting to my aunt Irene Aitta at Stillwater.
Thanks, it's been fixed.

By Renee in IL on Tuesday, November 6, 2001 - 03:03 am:

Hello all!
Wow! We had a fantastic aurora light show all the way down here in Chicago this evening! Anyone reading this see it? I heard it was spotted as far South as AL and LA! It started here about 8:45pm and went for over an hour or so. It may have gone on longer but the rising moon along with the area light pollution washed it out. I bet you folks up North there in Yooper country had an even better show!! I hope Dan or others got some good pictures to share with us all!!
I can't wait to see them!!
Best wishes,
Renee in IL

By Bill Denning, Texas on Sunday, November 4, 2001 - 01:41 pm:

Granite Island Lighthouse

There is an interesting article on the Granite Island Lighthouse, which is a few miles offshore near Marquette, in the Detroit Free Press Sunday November 4, 2001. You can read the article online at

There is also a Web site for the lighthouse itself,

By Bill Denning, Texas on Sunday, November 4, 2001 - 01:25 pm:

Gloria, I tried emailing you, but my message bounced also. Here's what I wrote:

Hi Gloria,

I noticed your posting dated November 1 today. I'm not related to any of the families that you mentioned, but one name caught my eye.

One of the people who works at the Calumet branch of the Frank A. Douglass Insurance Agency is Tom Tikkanen, perhaps he is related. I don't really know him personally, but happened to meet him briefly several years ago when I was looking for one of the other staff members. They also deal in real estate, and I think that Tom might work in that area rather than in insurance.

Their office is at 104 5th Avenue in Calumet, and the phone numbers are (906) 337-2303 and (877) 211-0101.

Also, if you haven't already seen these, take at look at July 14 & 15, 2001 in the Pasty Cam archive. There is quite a bit of discussion regarding Freda & Redridge, and I'm sure you'll recognize the names of some of the people there.

I was born in Hancock, and lived in Houghton from 1945 - 1952. My family & I get back to the Copper Country whenever we can, usually every two or three years. Sure wish I could figure out a way to make a living there and move permanently.

Best regards, Bill

By Frank Picotte, California on Saturday, November 3, 2001 - 03:51 pm:

Hi anyone from Lake Linden,Hubbell area living around the Sacramento Ca.area give a holler. Frank Picotte formerly from Lake Linden.

By Pat & Glenda on Friday, November 2, 2001 - 07:54 pm:

Hello Gloria,
(Tried to answer to your "link" address, but keeps bouncing back..error)
The area you are asking about is one of our favorites..Beacon Hill, Freda and Redridge. A great place for information, and absolutely great food, is the Superior View restaurant in Freda. We bought a little booklet at the restaurant, "Freda, Michigan_ End Of The Road," cost is $4.00. Lots and lots of the old names are in this book, lot of history also...This was the thirty-fifth of a local history series (in 1989, copyright year). Written by Clarence J. Monette, 842 Ninth Street, Lake Linden, Michigan 49945.
You probably have this info, but just in case..we live in Memphis, TN..sort of snoop around the UP on vacations, looking for places like this..(we try to go as VISITORS, not tourists)..Drove out to Freda twice this summer while we were in the area, what a great drive through the "Tunnel Road"...wish we could do it during the fall color season...
Take care of those good thoughts,
Pat & Glenda Keiran

By Judy Simmons, Atlanta, Ga. on Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 05:27 pm:

The picture you have on your page today is the most gorgeous I have ever seen. A serene view of the water with the spectacular colors make for a picture for all to enjoy.

By Gloria Long, Michigan on Thursday, November 1, 2001 - 01:59 pm:

this is my second inquiry - I would love to hear from anyone regarding the small communities of Beacon Hill, Freda and Redridge. I feel this is the best site to find info about those towns and their people. Some names would be Tikkanen (my grandfather). Marinelli, Nissen, Karkkainen, Marttila, Koivu, Couch, Morin Myllyoja, and Rinta and Lahnala. I love this site and hope to hear from someone. P.S. My Aunt Hilma Koivu (nee Tikkanen) had a snow scooper such as been written about recently. That was way back - probably 50's or 60's. Glo (nee Seppala)