Aug 11-04

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: Aug: Aug 11-04
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Photo by Joseph Hurley

Mary Drew at Pasty Central on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:28 am:

Actually, the correct name for this marina is the Copper Harbor State Dock, according to the DNR. I'm not sure of the 'when' of the project, but the marina and gift shop underwent major changes in the past few years, making it a much more usuable port for the boating crowd. Joseph Hurley captured a shot of the new section of docks that has been added. To get a better perspective of the layout here, the gift shop and parking lot would be off to the right in this view. A number of activities begin right at this very spot. The obvious one of course is launching your own vessel for some boating recreation. Several others are the Lighthouse Boat Tour, a hike out to Hunter's Point (one of my favorites) and if you're lucky enough to have been standing on that dock a little more than a month ago, it's the perfect vantage point from which to view the fireworks!

By Charlie at Pasty Central on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:34 am:

See yesterday's Pasty Cam for a note about recovering the discussion page with the old group Sunday School photo on December 16, 2001.

It amazes me, after 8+ years of maintaining this website, how such a diverse community has resulted - with tens of thousands of pictures and messages. Just when we think we have seen it all, a picture of a U.P. cat and chipmunk develops into a heavy doctrinal debate. Perhaps we should devote some area of this forum to various topics where people can exchange ideas about subjects which seem to bring out passionate disagreement: politics, religion, conservation and development, ketchup or gravy, etc., etc.

Our intention on the Pasty Cam is to bring a "glimpse of life in the U.P."... We strive to present a mix of natural beauty and wildlife, historically significant scenes, people and places - in a way which captures the look and feel of daily life in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. In the past year Pasty Central has become an expanded data warehouse for a couple hundred photographers in our Guest Gallery.

All of this hardly leaves us with enough hours in the day to respond to questions and keep up with the discussion. A couple of days ago someone asked about the camera I used to capture Jenn Stigers and her friend in the Pines Resort chair, and to give an update on her fund raiser. This morning I'm not able to locate the Kodak to give you any model number, but I did speak with Dick Powers yesterday, and he said Jenn raised over $7,000 dollars, not even counting a pile of donations which came in from Pasty Cam visitors. There has been over $160,000 raised so far toward the purchase of Hunter's Point

Jenn and friend
By the way, we'll try to have an update on the selection of the 2005 Pasty Cam Calendar pictures in the next couple of days. There is still time for you to pick your favorites. See Mary's message on August 3rd.
Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:36 am:

Good Morning from Georgia... At least I think it is... Tropical Storm Bonnie may not make it such a good morning! It's moving toward Fran and I and will hit the area tomorrow!
First Post

By smf in troll land on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:36 am:

Good morning everyone.

By Kim near Lansing on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:36 am:

Good Morning!!

By k2, Fowlerville MI on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:37 am:


By NKR Mishawaka IN on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:48 am:

Good Morning to all from a cool (56 degrees) Mishawaka IN

By NKR Mishawaka IN on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:50 am:

I love this picture. The blue of the water matches the blue of the sky. Great picture

By Margaret, Amarillo TX on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:52 am:

Yo, NKR: it's 58 here in Amarillo!!go figure. Hurray for the girls. I hope their fundraiser much success!

By anita, mi on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:54 am:

morning from troll land. It is cool here. I see by the bridge cam that you have rain; so, it is good to see a sunny pic.

By Sherry in N FL on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:18 am:

Morning all from N FL. Cloudy here right now, waiting for Bonnie to show up tommorow. Then Charley will be here this weekend. Not looking forward to the next 5 days. Lots of rain and some wind expected.
Nice pic of a calm harbor.

By ywb/yooperwannabe/richmond on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:29 am:

Good Morning
Congratulations to Alex for being the 1st post!!!
So glad to be back from Florida. There is NO place like Michigan. Looking forward to the 26th. I'll be up in Marquette for the weekend moving my son back up to NMU. Have a great day!

By Charlotte, Mishawaka, IN on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:41 am:

A 2nd good morning from Mishawaka, IN. The weather here today feels much like it did when I visited the UP in June.

By Down State Dave on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:47 am:

Charlie -- let's not get into the ketchup/gravy debate! I'm a pretty liberal guy on most subjects but people who want to to voice there preference for gravy should have their taste buds revoked. ;>) Oh ---- and is it ketchup or catsup?
Seriously though, thanks for a great web site and your even handed administration of it.

And to Mr. Hurley, GREAT picture!

By Mary Lou on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:48 am:

I took the Copper Lighthouse tour from this dock in July. It is so pretty and the tour was very interesting.....My grandfather arrived at Copper Harbor in 1882 as a young stonemason from Switzerland. It is necessary to take a boat to tour this lighthouse.

By Chevysac, MI on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:53 am:

Hey, looking at the Copper Harbor picture reminded me that I heard there will be a new Isle Royale Queen in use sometime soon. Has that happened yet? If it has, does anyone have a picture of the Isle Royale Queen IV?

By Dennis, Florida on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:54 am:

Just back here in Okeechobee, Florida from spending one week in the UP.
It's been well over 20 years since we lived there. It is more beautiful than I remember. The weather was perfect and the air is as clean as before.
That place has got to be close to the 8th Wonder of the World

By Joseph Hurley,Brighton,Mi on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:57 am:

Good Morning all and thanks Mary Drew for posting
my Picture of the marina. I also have two other pictures one of the gift shop and one of the parking lot . They are in my Gallery of pictures.

I really enjoy the postings and the pictures on your site .


By Bob, Ohio on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:05 am:

Charlie: I sincerely hope the Hunter's Point preservation effort succeeds. For some unexplainable reason, this little spit of land has become so important to me even though I only get to Copper Harbor once a year at best. I'll make another small contribution asap and best wishes to all involved.

By Cindy in Iowa on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:07 am:

Alex in Gerorgia,
Be safe when Tropical Storm Bonnie hits your area. My thoughts are with you and Fran.
Take care,

By Bob, Ohio on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:07 am:

Isn't that Hunter's Point in the background of today's photo?

By Vancouver, Wa on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:17 am:

Good Morning all!

Today out here in Vancouver, Wa we are expected to reach a hot 99 degrees to which I will be thinking of the cooler refreshing environment of the Keweenaw.

Best wishes

By sandstoneprincess on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:18 am:

The tree in the neighbor's yard is gold, orange and olive green. The temp is 48 degrees...the Copper Country? Nah, Iowa!
LOVE this pic this a.m. Just beautiful.
Morning to all the Pasty friends, and those I know in Jake and duh sistahs in all points. ernie in WA, Betty there, too, BT in the LP.
Oh, the pic reminds me of the 14 footer sail that my dad had. Remember BT?? After it was sold...then what? Maybe it is still sailing on the Gitchee Gumee.
ernie: hubby got the stairs in with some local help, thanks for the offter:>)

By Kathy, Lansing on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:26 am:

Good morning everyone!

Yesterday I posted a few questions I was hoping to have answered, I'm reposting all but the one that was partially answered.

Questing for answers to mine questions . . .

If Pastor Hart lives either down-state or in Florida, who, if anyone, lives in the cabin at camp?

Why is everything locked at camp? I wanted/needed to visit the tabernacle, and it was closed up tighter than a drum . . .

What makes the black flies at 12 Mile Beach (to forever be known to my daughter as Flu Shy Beach) so mean? We weren't bothered by them any place else we went . . .

Answers to all questions were emailed by the webmaster's wife

By c on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:59 am:


Yes,Hunter's Point is off to the left.

By Yooper Stuck in PA on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:10 am:

The answers to yesterday's Finnish quiz:

Luode - Northwest
Koillinen - Northeast
Kaakko - Southeast
Lounas - Southwest

Thanks to Richard Impola via minun Aiti.

By Frank,,,,,,,Milw....... on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:15 am:

Isn't a rutabaga round, and a turnip large carrot-like????

By . on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:18 am:


By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:19 am:

I think the white carrot is parsnip, isn't it?

By maijaMI on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:22 am:

Charlie: thanks so much for your wonderful work. Coming back from the UP yesterday, all up and energized, yesterday's page was kinda a comedown. Slamming other's beliefs is a personal thing, and not the spirit of this site!

I hope everyone posting realizes how huge a task this has gotten for the editors and will keep their comments positive!

By shelly/Yankee in Texas on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:26 am:

Looks like a nice grey day you're having there!

Its sunny and warm here. Hope all have a great day!

By BTinLP on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:52 am:

That boat was a memorable part of my teens. Did you kids get to use it? Even took Mom out on the Big Lake with it once. Would look good in todays picture don't you think? Who bought it?
I finally got a ride. Brother took me. A ride share board would be good....Charlie?

By Jeff Portland oregon on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:55 am:


By moi on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:58 am:

Very peaceful photo.
Definitely my new wallpaper!
It even makes me forget the weather outside today! Feels like fall.

By Carl on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:04 am:

Kathy, Lansing asked on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:26 am:

"If Pastor Hart lives either down-state or in Florida, who, if anyone, lives in the cabin at camp?"

I don't know anything about the camp, but I observed Pastor Hart and his wife at their home on Rockland Street several different times as I walked by last week.

By The Urban Escapees MI on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:06 am:

A great picture of one of our favorite places...Copper Harbor. The new marina is very nice, and we've been getting some good size boats in. (Yachts, really). Loving this wonderful rain, and cool temps!

By elm on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:22 am:

Well said Charlie. Thanks. Beautiful peaceful picture today:)

By Carl on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:22 am:

McMillan McDonalds?

Several times as I was driving east on M-28 I noticed a billboard on the right side of the highway just before you entered McMillan. It said McDonalds, just ahead and also had the trademark "golden arches". It appears to be a newer sign as it's not faded and isn't falling down or anything.

I find it odd that there would be enough traffic to sustain any fast food restaurant there. Does anyone know if there are/were plans to open one, or why the sign is there.

P.S. I don't believe there is any fast food place anywhere east of there on M-28.

By JJ MI on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:26 am:


That's a good thing - right???

By Delaware on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:01 pm:

Duplicate of original message on August 10.

By Lee, Calumet on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:11 pm:

It was a wild and wooly scene on the Big Lake in Keweenaw this morning! After three days of cold rain and winds I was forced to leave the campground and return home. (Ugh) The waves were huge with frothy white caps and the constant roar of the surf was never ending last nite. I felt sorry for the poor tenters.

By Ellen-Gaylord-Munising on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:15 pm:

The McDonald's sign if for the one in Newberry, I think.

By sandstone princess on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:20 pm:

To Kathy, Lansing. I guess you didn't get my e-mail. Oh well. I think Carl answered some of your questions. Perhaps the camp season is over and has not yet begun the fall retreats that are held there many weekends. Mel Jones, who lives very close to the camp, now runs the camp. The house that Harts used to live in out at the camp is office space or was the last time I was out there, about 4 or 5 years ago.
Hope this helps.
Another thing: I was reading the book (for ages 8 and above) Ella Enchanted and on pages 72-73 the author mentions meat pasties! Made me hungry.
And yes, I am most certainly above 8 years old....
for the record with duh sisthas.

By jeff k on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:23 pm:

to CARL - yes, the sign is to advertise the McD's in NEWBERRY !! only 10-20 miles down the road.

Jeff K

By sandstone princess on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:26 pm:

BT in LP, I always thought that your friend from high school bought it. I would hate to say "the rich kid", but compared to some, I think his family was a bit more well off. You remember who I mean?

By Greta, eating my roots in Milw on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:29 pm:

Rutabagas - round, brownish outside, golden inside. Parsnip - white, shaped like carrot, tastes like mild potato/carrot comb. Turnip - purply white outside, white inside. Stronger taste. Had me some pink cauliflower and turnips microwaved together the other night. Tasty combo. Nothing like a good root vegetable. They all seem to have a bit of the earthy taste.

By camwathcer on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:36 pm:

Is that a "Cat's game" I see above?

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 12:49 pm:

Leaving at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow for Aura! We'll check out our favorite waterfalls (Silver River, Falls River), eat at the Ambassador, and spend a day in the Keweenaw. I'll be sure to go to the Copper Harbor Marina also and look at Sharon Smith's bracelets at the Mariner. Can't decide where to eat in the Harbor. I've been to the Harbor Haus, and would like to be there for the rouladen at dinner (but we're always there at lunchtime). Loved the rouladen at the Country Haus. Would like to try the Mariner, Lac La Bell, or the restaurant at the golf course in the Harbor. Any favorite foods at one of those places for lunch?

By hazel on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:56 pm:

Anyone know if Peterson Funeral Home in Calumet has a website?

By Carl on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 01:57 pm:

jeff k and Ellen:

ref McDonalds in Newberry..guess that must be it. I hadn't thought about that as I often turn south on 117. Seems the billboard could be more explicit though?

JJ -

No fast food places, is a good thing? When I was younger I would not have agreed with you. But the older I get the less appetizing that stuff seems to be, especially when travelling. Although I didn't get to stop there lately, "Gobblers" in Gaylord is one of my favorites. A *real* sit-down turkey dinner with all of the trimmings, available year round, with fast, freindly service. Next best thing to a pasty.

By SDC, Ferndale, MI on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 02:06 pm:

If your travels in the U.P. take you to the Soo Locks, be sure to stop at Antlers for lunch or dinner. Its the neatest place once you are inside. Kids (and adults) love it. Good food too and if they find out you are a traveler that has come the farthest distance to the Soo, they ring this loud bell and whistles go off. Also visit the Valley Camp Museum which use to be an old Great Lakes Freighter. Neat stuff.

By Audrey, San Jose, CA on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 02:12 pm:

I've been to the Antlers restaurant for dinner! Good food, fun place to be, and a bit noisy, especially with that bell ringing all the time!

By pungvait mi on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 02:17 pm:

If you're at da soo, try Clyde's Drive-in-east of the locks--oldtime burgers and MALTS. On your way back to the Keweenaw, try Carla's in Keweenaw Bay.

By Dave, Cairo on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 03:41 pm:

Great evening from Cairo. Sorry for the late post, just a but chaotic today. On the other hand is was a beautiful evening for a walk along the Nile. The hotel where I'm staying "Cairo Marriott Hotel and Omar Khayyam Casino" is situated near downtown on an island. I walked past the many dinner cruise boats on the East side of the island, cut across and walked back the West side of the Island. My room is on the 20th floor of the Zamalec Tower so when I look off the balcony I can see the river on both sides of the island. There is a delightful breeze this evening, temperature about 80F, and the scent of Raspberry tobacco from the Hookhas on the patio, and the Egytian Musicians playing below, makes for a perfect evening. I hope tomorrow evening, my last in Cairo this time, will be just as pleasant. Plane leaves for Frankfort then Philadelphia at 4:30 Friday morning.

By Mr. Wheatman, South end on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 03:42 pm:

Ahh a resplendent panoramic of vessels ensconsed from Lady Superior's asperity indeed. Kudos on the fine shot of one of Copper Harbor's copious scenic gems.


By anon/milw on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 03:50 pm:

Thank you for your always insightful input, Mr. Wheatman!

By downstate don on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 04:31 pm:

Rutabagas, turnips, and parsnips are pretty much
the same in taste, just different in sizes and shapes. All can be used in the great pasty. A lot
of people don't even put any of these type of vegs
in their pasties. Personally, I think it gives the
pasty a good taste.

By UP_gal on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 04:32 pm:

anon/milw: Hope your visit to Lake Medora was wonderful. Always great to re-connect with our loved ones. Hope all from this board who have returned home had a great time. Looks like summer is winding down and I am just going to begin my travels to other cities myself.

By Kim near Lansing on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:00 pm:

Dave/Cairo, Have a safe trip! Where is your final stop??

By PastyCam Addiction on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 05:03 pm:

I think we all owe Charlie and Mary and the rest of the fine crew a great big thanks for bringing us all together and letting us all have some good clean fun. There is so much hovac in the world today, it's nice to see and hear good news for a change. I'm so glad the girls have done well. I hope they continue as more visitors come to the area. The conversation yesterday was an educational one. We all don't have to agree, but it is good to share information and learn from it. The picture of the day is perfect! Thanks PastyCam.

By downstate don on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 06:31 pm:

Karen; How are you holding up there? Does it look
like the storm is going to hit? Take care.

By walter p tampa on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 06:43 pm:

good hotdogs in lanse last week

By downstate don on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 06:47 pm:

Those hot dogs must have been Vollwerths. Betcha!

By ywb/yooperwannabe/richmond on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:05 pm:

Dave in Cario,
Safe jouney home. Will you be visiting Upper Michigan when you get home? You should go during the fall.

By Karen... on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:25 pm:

downstate don, we are bracing for the worse. The storm Charley is the big one heading right at us. They say it is to hit the state around two/three Friday. It will come ashore any place from Tampa, south. That's not nice!! Oh well, if it gets through here Friday, Saturday should be okay to fly. It gets a little nerve racking to say the least. We have our supplies ready as do most folks here on the west coast. I'll keep you posted.

By Karen... on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:42 pm:

downstate don, the National Hurricane Center is the site for monitoring hurricanes. They tell us exactly what we need to know. Locally, we prepare the best we, water, and gas.

By Wingboy on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:43 pm:

McDonalds and Walmart can and will turn the U.P. into everything awful you can imagine. The prices are cheap, and then the local merchants disappear, and then the locals work for 6 bucks and hour and no benefits. Please be careful of what you wish for...........

By D and L , California on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:53 pm:

102 degrees in Bakersfield, but we will be in the Copper Country in about a week!

By moi on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 07:56 pm:

We have a McD's AND a Walmart up here, and our area is just as nice as it always was. Brought some prices down too. The local merchants that have quality shops with quality merchandise will do fine. Walmart only carries so much....

By camwatcher on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:00 pm:

You have a choice whether or not to shop in Wal-Mart or to eat in McDonald's. If you don't want them in your community, don't patronize them. Thye have left areas where it is not profitable to be.

By elsa,kearsarge on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:07 pm:

Many of the local merchants were not paying much
more than that anyway. They were raking in the
high profits and not caring about the locals. At
least with tourism in our area, tourists can still
find what they need when they come here. A little
bit of home for them. So many of the local merchants got rich from the sweat of the people
and have taken all their profits and invested it
in real estate.

By Robert, CO on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:19 pm:

I love the burgers from Clyde's in the Soo! A must stop every time I'm in town. They're at the Sugar Island Ferry dock. The Antlers is great too, though the bell gets old. I like the Lockview for a quieter meal.

By Julie/SSM on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:22 pm:

Don't look now, but the world isn't perfect. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This has been the way for centuries. This is the way it is and we can't do a darn thing about it. Is that Lutheran church still there? Maybe I'll have to take a look at it, eh?

By downstate don on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:32 pm:

Karen; I'll be watching and praying that you have
a safe and enjoyable trip to the U.P. Once you get
there you'll be happy and life will be good. Leave
all your cares and worries behind you and enjoy
each day to the fullest.

By BT,TC on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:43 pm:

10 or 20 miles is "just ahead" in the U.P.
Isn't it? LOL. My cottage is near Mcmillan...some of the back country in that area is EXACTLY like my memories of the bootjack farm country. I lOve the U.P.! any part of it is soon as I cross the big mac....the cares seem to melt away!!

By Karen... on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:50 pm:

downstate don, that's very thoughtful of you. We are so looking forward to this trip. I've packed for rain, snow, sleet, or shine. I'm ready. I haven't been to the UP in many many years. I know I will love being out of the rat race and just enjoy absolutely everything there is to see and do......even sitting looking out at the water, listening to the silence. It is golden, you know. Where in Waterford do you live? Close to the airport?

By Alicia, Calumet on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 08:57 pm:

Peterson Funeral Home does not have a site.
If you are looking for Genealogy (Ancestry)info
try this great local site.

By downstate don on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:01 pm:

Karen; Very close to the airport. Actually on the
corner of Crescent Lake Road and Pontiac Lake Road. Silence is golden indeed. I'm sure you will
appriciate it especially if you haven't been there
in years. Did you say you lived in the Milford/
Highland area at one time?

By Karen... on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:13 pm:

Yes, 'left the area in 78. I had enough snow and I came down here, got a job and have been here ever since. I do like to come back to visit. The family is still in the Milford area.

By downstate don on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:31 pm:

Karen; Maybe you'll get to be here for the
Woodward Dream Cruise on August the 21st. Expecting nearly 2 million people. Maybe you'll be
ready to be around a lot of people if you spend
enough quiet times in the North Country?

By crusin'thebackroads on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:38 pm:

FYI: on Saturday Aug. 14 there will be a *peaceful* anti-mine march on the AAA to the proposed mining site on the Baraga plains. in case you don't know, Kennecott Mining Co. is looking to sulfide mine in the Yellow Dog Plains, an endeavor that would change our land and watershed FOREVER. if you love the U.P. and all that we stand for up here, then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get involved in any way you can and voice your opposition to this. write, call, or take a few seconds to email our elected public servants. the Kennecott Mining Co. will bring in it's own workers, no local jobs will be created from this. ... thanks for reading this.

By elsa, kearsarge on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 09:57 pm:

Yes, get involved. We have enough mine sites scaring the land now. They have destroyed the soil
and contaminated your water. Then the mess was
left behind to haunt us for the rest of our lives.
Wouldn't you rather look at the land as it is rather than looking at those ghostly mine shafts?
Be there!

By crusin'thebackroads on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:30 pm:

thank you elsa. what Kennecott is proposing is an extraction method known as sulfide mining. the prospective nickel and copper is found in formations containing sulfur. When this rock is brought to the surface and exposed to air and moisture, a chemical reaction generates sulfuric acid laden with dissolved heavy metals that can leach into surface or ground water.
i wonder how many people will see this tonight--i might repost this tomorrow early on so more people can view it and possibly get involved. THE TIME FOR OUR VOICES TO BE HEARD IS NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

By elsa,Kearsarge on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 10:43 pm:

Good idea Crusin down the backroads! Many of da
yoopers are already fast asleep. I would post it
periodically until the gathering. You'll see me
there with my Minnie-Pearl hat and swampers on.

By crusin'thebackroads on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:03 pm:

COOL!! i'll be looking for ya! my heart is bursting with joy to see someone getting involved!!

By Sandy on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:40 pm:

After being gone to Detroit city, now in Lansing, I will be glad to be home tomorrow in the good ole' COPPER COUNTRY. Hi to all the great Yoopers dare yah eh?

By elsa,kearsarge on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:54 pm:

Welcome back Sandy. Da Yoopers are always glad to
have you back. Have a safe journey home. We'll
keep the candles burning for ya sweet heart.

By Andytofu, Sedar Bay on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 02:31 am:

Reference comment about giant WalMart causing local establishments to go out of business: as a new Yooper used to Big City shopping hours, I'm keenly aware that most local businesses are open only between 9 a.m. to 5 or 5:30 p.m., and maybe 1/2 day on Saturday. Consequently, it's apparent to me that people patronize WalMart regularly simply because their later store hours provide shopping time for working people and those who just can't get to the hardware stores and other specialty shops between the hours of 9 a.m. and 5 p.m.

After several days of heavy rain, it looks like we'll have a nice day tomorrow because the rain has stopped and we even saw a bit of orange sunset tonight over Lake Superior.

By Dave, Cairo on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 04:13 am:

Kim near Lansing:

Final destination is Philadelphia. I plan on visiting the UP in October for color season. I can't wait to get back to cooler climes.

36 hours and counting. :-)

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 06:04 am:

Weird! Way above is a message from a Hazel, followed by a message from a Carl. I have an Aunt Hazel and Uncle Carl. Not just an aunt and uncle from two different families, but they're married to each other! That's really strange!

By finlander, painesdale on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 06:58 am:

I find it ironic that in our area there is much ranting about things such as a Walmart SuperCenter being brought in because that will hurt the "local" grocery stores such as IGA and Econo foods. I pose this question: What happened when IGA and Econo came into town? Does anyone remember Lazzari's (sp?) Market, Red Owl, Super Valu, West End Market, and others whose name I cannor recall who have shut down since the current "big boys" came to town? People hold the power to choose as they please, and that is where they shop and where they work. Just an observation........

By DJB MI. on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:46 pm:


By EILOLA on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 12:19 pm:

Happy Thanksgiving from Lebanon, MO
I can not find a website or any information to order from Vollwerths. We miss the hots dogs, brats and especially the potatoe sausage. I would like to place an order for my yoopers here in MO. for Christmas

By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 05:46 pm:

I can not find a website or any information to order from Vollwerths.

Scroll down to the bottom of this page and click on the "Home" link. When you get there, scroll down again. You'll find a Vollwerth's link near the bottom of the right column. Click that link and you'll be at at Vollwerth's.

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While in the Copper Country be sure to visit
On US-41 north of Calumet
on US-41 in Kearsarge, a mile north of Calumet.
(The home of Pasty Central)

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