Jun 20-03

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2003: Jun: Jun 20-03
Pastymobile in Lower Michigan    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Bob Jewell
White Lady Slipper    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Dave Walli

By Bob Jewell in the LP of MI on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 07:46 am:

I know you ship pasties all over the country but apparently some bakeries deliver. I recently saw this truck from Seattle Washington in troll land in Dearborn. Of course if it left Seattle when the truck was new the pasties may be a little stale.

Could this be why Toivo went to Washington in the first place?

Today's Flower Power Photo above is a white Keweenaw Lady Slipper discovered by Dave Walli, enjoying his retirement from Copper Art, a long time supporter of Pasty Central. Thanks, Dave!

Aerial Troll on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 08:20 am:

Looks like a Scottish Bakery to me. We have one locally that sells meat pies, usually pork, and bakery. Not bad, but no pasty.

By Lily, MI on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 08:33 am:

Mr. Walli, where did you find the white lady slipper?!? I was so excited last weekend to find lots of pink lady slippers, but I think I would absolutely have a stroke if I came upon a white one! Mr. Hopper, this photo should make the 2004 calendar, being such a rare find, please.

By Naomi,East Lansing MI on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 09:02 am:

Another PASTY in "troll land" sighting Down here along Saginaw Highway.... on the way out of Grand Ledge there is a little shop called KEEWENAW PASTY'S! I have never been there,didnt even realize it was there,but was a fun sighting to see the "KEEWENAW" influence down this way.

By J, mi on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 09:38 am:

Can it be true??!! Did the guy in the rock group ACDC sell pasties before he made it to the big time?

By Alice, Ventura, CA on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:01 am:

My sister lives across the street from the auto show! Hi sis. That is some beautiful buggy.

And so is the lady's slipper. Is that a pink one in the background?

J,mi. Looks like Angus made both meat pies and pasties but way before he started knocking out records. Maybe this was his pop.

By Therese Dimet Michigan on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:18 am:

The pasty shop was owned by Mr chop from Ahmeek he told me his dad had a grocery shop up there at one time I think he sold the pasty shop to workers but not sure an I have had there pasy an trenary toast an there good, He told me my brother Sonny use to go to there store
Therese Dimet

By John P MI on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:24 am:

This Model T pastymobile is probably one of 40 that drove cross country fron CA to Dearborn MI. Purpose of the trip was for the celebration of Ford's 100 year old celebration. 40 model T's drove from CA to Dearborn MI. Took the Ferry Badger across Lake Michigan to avoid botton of the lake traffic. Still trying to figure out how the got over the mountains.

By Luanne, Dickeyville, WI on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:01 am:

My grandmother Mary (Hill,Storvis) Hiltunen, used to tell me stories of crossing the country in the 20's in a model T. She and her first husband went to Bisbee, Az for work. They had to strap extra cans of fuel and water to the outside of the car to be able to cross the desert. Gas stations few and far between. Also had to have along supply of extra tires for self repairs. By the time they returned to Houghton, they had just kept putting a couple of tires over each other because they were all in tough shape. Grandma remembered pulling into Houghton at the end of their trip and one of their extra tires came off and started rolling down Sheldon Ave, in front of them.

By Fran,Ga on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:14 am:

Love that Lady Slipper! I has been a LONG time since I have seen one.We used to find them by Woodside ,there was a moist area there by a little creek.There were a lot of different wildflowers there at that time. They were so pretty.

By Kate/ Michigan on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:21 am:

Help! My daughter has been looking in the local garden shops and nurseries for Lady Slippers, and hasn't been having much luck. Are they that rare? Are they perhaps protected and totally unavailable for sale? I really would like to surprise her with three or four plants for her garden as part of her graduation gift . . . We live in Lansing, any help any of you could give would be super.

By Karen P, MN on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:58 am:

To Kate/Michigan: try http://www.whiteflowerfarm.org. Type in orchid in the search window. They have 3 cultivated lady slippers, a white (not quite the same one as in today's picture), a yellow and a pink.

In Minn the lady slipper (all varieties) are protected in the wild. They can be found at the Farmers Markets from certified growers.

By Connie - Colorado on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 12:39 pm:

Looks just like the slippers they sell at Wal-Mart.

Have a great weekend!

By Calumet John. on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 01:10 pm:

Hello to all folk who write to my message from other day.I wrote back a few line but seem to have put from that same page of the hoist picture.Kiitos John Yalmer K.

By Mike-Transplanted Yooper-Redford, Mi on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 01:20 pm:

Remember, down here in "Troll Land" they pronounce the word pasty, as "paste-ee". And sauna (pronounced "sow-naa") is "saw-naa". Oh well, I guess they all mean the same thing.

By Sherry in N FL on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 01:27 pm:

Calumet John, YES please tell us more of your life. We all have lost family that we wished we had taken the time to listen to their stories. I look forward to hearing yours.

By danbury, germany on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 02:44 pm:

Regarding the pasty: I remember once in a novel I read a line about a woman from the south, who inquired about a pasty, and that of course (said the book) she mispronounced it. Now I'm curious: How is the "correct" pronounciation? More like "pahsty"?

By Mary on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:06 pm:

danbury, germany:
Click on the link below for the proper pronunciation of "pasty", as in the meat pie. Once you get to the page, click on the small red speaker icon following the word.
Pasty pronunciation and definition

The following link, will take you to the other pronunciation and definition of the same spelled word!
pasty: pallid, unhealthy in appearance
Hope this helps!

By Lorelei, MI on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:23 pm:

I tell people that it is pronounced like the name "Patsy" only with the "s" and "t" reversed. Makes it a lot easier. :)

By Karen P. Mn on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 04:04 pm:

to danbury: germany, the pronunciation is "past" as in "that happened in the past" + ee as "eek! a mouse".

By Tim Roede, Puyallup WA on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:33 pm:

I couldn't believe it when I saw Seattle on the side of the delivery truck so I did a quick search. Looks like there is a pasty bakery out here. Although they are advertised as Australian, when I get a chance I'll pick some up and do a comparison.

By Jean, Devon, England on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:37 pm:

As a child of Cornish parents I feel qualified to try to describe the pronounciation of "pasty". It is Paah-stee. The Westcountry accent makes the vowels long and slightly drawled and probably has an e in it somewhere and said in a way peculiar to this area. You have to hear the pronounciation to believe it!! It's difficult to describe it or write it.

By Helen from DeWitt soon to be in St. Johns on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

Have been to the Keeweenaw Pasty Shop. They also sell Volwerth's Makara there.

By Dick H. on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 06:56 pm:

To John P.
The way they got them up through the mountains was to drive them up backwards.
That way the carburator was always full of gas, cause it was gravity fed.

By Dave janke Colorado on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 09:50 pm:

I tried to get Vollworth's to ship me some
brats. They are so good! But they wouldn't. Guess I'll have to go home with some coolers filled with dry ice next year.

By Charlie at Pass-tee Central on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 09:51 pm:

Over the last few years I've had opportunity to visit with many groups about Pasty Central, and the question of pronunciation invariably comes up. There are 3 different ways to say it, depending on where you're from:

In Great Britain they say pah - stee
In the U.P. they say pass - tee
In Las Vegas they say pace - tee

By Bob Jewell from Farmington Hills on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:19 pm:

To John P.
The picture was taken at the Ford Centennial but it wasn't one of the 43 model T's that did the California to Dearborn tour. This one is owned by a man from Lansing. It was one of over 3200 classic cars that were on display.

By real meat pies come from above the equator on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:28 pm:

OK....there was a thread the other day concerning "Yooperisms". Go to the link for the Australian Pie Company posted by Tim Roede and check out some of the first entries in the guest book. Way down at the bottom of the page. Wow! Those aussies have got some weird ones. Could spend the rest of my life trying to figure out what the heck they're trying to say. "Holy Wah" ain't nothin. You want some real confusion, check these guys out. Fair Dinkum? Esky in mildura? Dogs eye and dead horse? What's that supposed to be? And this one guy is craving a "..meat pie with tomato sauce and an iced coffee"! Heresy! Coffee is supposed to be hot. Tomato sauce belongs on spaghetti.(unless you are one of "those" who puts ketchup on yer pasty)
One guy was craving one of those "Rat Coffins" as he put it.
I'm sure there was no hyperbole involved with his description.

By Pasty Queen Greta in Milw on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:36 pm:

All I got to say about pasties is that makin', bakin' and eatin' em are the best therapy for whatever ails ya. Get a cup of coffee and slice, dice and roll away your problems in the dough. The friends I make pasties for say that the aroma in the house is better than a fine perfume.

By Fran,Ga on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 11:50 pm:

Calumet John,
Keep up the good work. I found your new message on the hoist page. Can't wait to hear your stories!!

By Julie B Holland The Netherlands on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:05 am:

What is the sauce that you have there to put on
the pasty .... when we young we did do the
ketchup ...and a nice glass of milk....thats how
I had them when young....the smell youre right
is amazing.... my dad would go all the way to
"west" side down in Detroit to get the "good"
pasties...( about 45 mins) ...no one I knew
growing up ate them...my dad was born up in that
area of Calument and his dad was from Wales
came over to work the mines ...I love that area..
well . keep on enjoying them - eat hardy
thanks for all the great converstaion here ...
Enjoy ..Julie B

By pcm on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:44 pm:

Dave from Colorado,
Don't know why you had trouble getting Vollwerth's to ship you some bratwurst. I know they do ship gift boxes of meat. I checked their website vollwerth.com
and it doesn't look like they have brats listed but I believe they do take special orders for shipping. Try calling them, their 800 number is listed on their website. By the way, if you are bringing a cooler of meat back by car with you, dry ice not necessary, regular ice works just fine. I just got back home with a cooler full of their quality meat products. I'll be firing up the grill for some brats and cheddarwursts tonight.

By John P MI on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 03:56 pm:

Thanks for correcting me Bob. Proves to me assumptions don't count. They had lot's of coverage here in SW troll land, TV, newpaper, and on a site I also visit, boatnerd.com.
Thanks again for the correction. John P

By Connie - Colorado on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 02:11 pm:

The trick is to FREEZE the Vollworth's while you are in Houghton (or wherever) and then place them into a cooler to bring them back. They will get there fine. Also, buy FROZEN unbaked pasty (sorry Charlie!) from Pat's IGA by the Bishop Baraga shrine and bring them back in a cooler. This way you get that nice pasty smell in your house when you bake them. If you really want to 'smell the UP' in your own kitchen, cook some venison! Yum!! Listen to a little Gordon Lightfoot (Gord's Gold), smell some driftwood and you are there!!!!!! Take it from someone who has to do this a lot!

By Connie - Colorado on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 04:12 pm:

Charlie, you dawg!!! (re: Las Vegas remark)

By Andres on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 02:22 am:

Not sure if it's still around, but Angus also had the best pub in Seattle, the Unicorn. Peas and Pasties with Guinness!!! Not to forget a tipsy hedgehog for desert.

By MAT, Washington on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:34 pm:

The Unicorn Pub, in Seattle,which was run by Angus of the meat pie/pasty fame, has been closed for several years. Their pasties were good, but
not like U.P. pasties. All of their food was great English country food, and no, that's not
an oxymoron. Their Welsh Ale (>8% alcohol) was
always fresh as well. My husband and I miss it.

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