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Charlie at Pasty Central (Chopper) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:00 am:

A couple of the years back-to-back were taken from the same spot in different directions, the ones of the stone fence at the Keweenaw Mountain Lodge.

By Marianne Y (Marianne) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:02 am:

Good Morning, Everyone!
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By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:18 am:

Top o' the morning to ya! Even though it's supposed to rain all day, I'm happy because I'm only working a half day! Woo hoo!

By Uncle Chuck @ Little Betsy (Unclechuck) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:18 am:

Way to go Marianne!

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:28 am:

Good morning everyone!!!!

By Richard L. Barclay (Notroll) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:53 am:

Question, am I missing a message somewhere or doing something wrong in that I don't seem to be able to get to any of the guest photo albums?

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura (Marsha) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:32 am:

The guest gallery is down right now and has been for awhile.

By Dale Beitz (Dbeitz) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:34 am:

Saw this on the Archaeology Magazine site this morning.
Escanaba man finds ancient copper axe

By Brooke (Lovethekeweenaw) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:46 am:

Good Morning everyone. Thanks for that link, Dale, it was very interesting.

By Rowdy (Roudymi) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:47 am:

With regard to the above mentioned article I wonder where the lake shore was in that area 3000 to 5000 years ago. Capt'n Paul where are you?

By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 01:56 pm:

During the time span mentioned, lake levels were still finding their balance because of several changes happening in the region (changing outlets, crustal rebound, climatic changes, etc...). For perspective, at 5,000 ybp, levels were about 2-3 metres higher than today. By 3,000 years ago, levels had fallen to about 1 metre below current lake levels. The link I have posted below shows graphically just how wild lake fluctuations have been over the past 12,000 years.

Lake level history for the past 12,000 years

This data is from the USGS. The graph of interest here is Graph B, which shows the time period we are concerned with. One thing to notice overall is that lake levels are always changing. The current drop in water levels appear to be just a normal flucuation the Great Lakes go through every so often. With time, levels should be back to more normal numbers....

By Bob Jewell, Farmington Hills (Rjewell) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 03:31 pm:

Capt. Paul
The referenced chart states "Lake-level history for Lake Michigan and Huron at Bay Mills Michigan." The only Bay Mills I know is on Superior. Is there another one?

By Capt. Paul (Eclogite) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 05:44 pm:

That's what I'm trying to figure out myself!! The only one I know of is in Chippewa County on Lake Superior. Maybe those crazy geologist's were knocking a few back that day...... not that we'd do anything like that ;-)

Maybe FRNash can shed some light on the subject......

By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:57 pm:

Gotta turn off the computer and turn on the boob tube and see who gets voted off American Idol tonight. I think the bottom three will be Brooke White, Syeshia Mercado and Michael Johns. They didn't do it last night because they had their big fundraiser, Idol Gives Back. Chow for now!

By Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:02 pm:

Yup, I'm headed that way too. However, I think the bottom 3 will be Brooke White, Syesha Mercado and Carly Smithson!!! I love Michael Johns!!! It could be any of the girls. The boys totally outsung them.

By Cindy Pihlaja Russell (Gone2long) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 09:08 pm:

Wow! We both had two of them right. I think the whole world was surprised by Michael Johns leaving. Can you imagine how awful that must feel to be told you have the lowest votes in front of the whole wide world. I would probably have to cry and I certainly could not sing.

By Marsha, Genesee/Aura (Marsha) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 10:40 pm:

Deb & Cindy: It's kind of fun to go to to see their predictions of who will be voted off on American Idol and Dancing With The Stars. They're often quite reliable!

By FRNash/PHX, AZ (Frnash) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:16 pm:

Capt. Paul (Eclogite):
"Maybe FRNash can shed some light on the subject"

Sorry folks, this amateur geography wonk also knows of only one Bay Mills: on Lake Superior, at the east end of Chippewa County, just across Waiska Bay from Brimley, MI.

That's also the only one I can find in the US of A.

There is this little item, though, at U.S. Geological Survey: Programs in Michigan we find:


Water-Level Fluctuations in Lake Superior

Changes of only a few feet in Great Lakes' water levels have significant economic effects on shipping and shoreline erosion. Scientists from the USGS and Michigan Sea Grant Program are studying long-term, water-level fluctuations at Bay Mills, Michigan on the south shore of Lake Superior a few miles west of Sault Ste. Marie. Submerged sand spits, formed at Bay Mills during the past 2,000 years, indicate periods of extended low lake levels with mean levels1.52 meters lower than the present mean level of 183.4 m (fig. 2). Natural climatic change lowered Lake Superior for extended periods, perhaps centuries. This new research provides planners a long-term historical framework to view popular projections of global warming effects on Great Lakes levels.

The above paragraph is accompanied by what appears to be the same set of lake level charts noted previously, but with this caption:


Figure 2. Scales of lake-level change in the past. A, In the last 12,000 years, the lake has experienced dramatic change due to changing outlets and ground tilting. B, For the past 5,000 years, climatically-controlled fluctuations have been superimposed on a general falling trend. C, For the last 160 years, lake level has fluctuated, but each peak of this centruy has been higher than the last.

Deb S. (Usedtobeayooper) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 11:29 pm:

I'll have to do that Marsha. Haven't visited yet this year. I like that site as well. I was shocked at who went home. I'd never have put him in the bottom 3 and was surprised when Cindy did. Good going, Cindy.

By Cindy Barth (Shekinah) on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 07:46 am:

Good morning from Christchurch, New Zealand

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