Mar 30-04

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: March: Mar 30-04
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By
Mary Drew at Pasty Central on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:20 am:

What's this? Chevy's new truck jingle?... > Like a Rock Climber oò

Dan Brown, along with his friends Steve and Ben were out behind Marquette Mountain, getting ready to do some rappelling, when they stumbled across this Chevy sign. Dan says they were pretty excited with their find, probably because Ben drives a Chevy! The hundred thousand dollar question....What's a sign like this, doing in a place like that? How many skiers take the time while zipping by, to read advertisements?! :->


By UP_gal on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:27 am:

Good Morning All .....What a treasure this sign is! Looks like it is in practically new condition. How much you wanna bet that this sign is hanging on someone's bedroom wall right now! LOL


By Renn in AL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:29 am:

First post of the day? :-)
Interesting find! Hmmmm. Makes one wonder what else is out there?
Best wishes,
Renee in AL


By Renee in AL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:30 am:

Darn...second I guess.... LOL


By Renee in AL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:31 am:

LOL...I was trying to get that first post in so fast that I didn't even notice my name was mis-typed. Yikes!


By Alfred, who is confused on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:37 am:

Every day I read about being first to post. What's the big deal? Is there a prize? Have I missed something? Bring us up to date, pastycam.


By cf hs on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:40 am:

it is a advertising sign from the top of a chairlift on Mqt Mtn.....wind or intoxicated students brougt it there....


By MurphySurf, Michigan on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:40 am:

Alfred,
As a former first poster, I did it because I could. I think the prize is within:-)


By Betsy, MQT, MI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:49 am:

Rappin behind Marquette Mountain??? How fun! ;)


By Kate, Trollsville on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:32 am:

Do those snow rakes work on removing moss from the roof as well?


By Down State Dae on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:37 am:

Hey Betsy -- There is a new, cutting edge group called the "Marquette Mountain Boys". They are into ropin', rasslin' and rappin'. Chevrolet must me their new sponsor. ;>)

I think cfhs is right though on how the sign got there.

As always -- nice pic!


By Down State Dave on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:39 am:

Oops! Didn't check my spelling! Substitue BE for ME as in "Chevrolet must BE their new sponsor. ;>)


By Renee in AL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:45 am:

No prize for being the first one to post except just the fun of it. :-)
Best wishes,
Renee


By Dave, Bakersfield, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:17 am:

To Eldred in Green Valley, AZ

Happy Birthday Dad!

Love Dave


By Steve on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:19 am:

I would just like to give a shot out to "the man"- Dan Brown. You're a good fellow Dan.


By Love the Woods on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:42 am:

Speaking of finding things (?) out in the woods, anyone ever come across a Bigfoot or it's tracks? Report it to The Bigfoot Researchers Field Organization. Honest to goodness research. I recently came across their site and if anyone's interested in the Michigan reports they have...
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/state_listing.asp?state=mi
(By the way, I don't want to start a discussion on the topic, so if anyone is interested, just visit the site and be as intrigued as I was)

Love the Chevy sign. My dad was a chevy man. Knew the engines inside and out. Drove them till they were nothing but scrap metal!!


By Pat , Mich on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:54 am:

So many LOL's. I was pleased to learn the other day on this site, what it stood for. I thought it stood for "little old lady", which didn't always make sense.


By LOL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:19 am:

Trying to be "First Post", sounds a bit ...oh, shall we say....'childish'? Cyber Kids everywhere, running to be the first in line..yelling "ME FIRST! ME FIRST!"


By cheryl mi on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:22 am:

In memory of my sister Janice who passed away 30 years ago today from domestic violence.there were no laws back then to protect victims. Janice May12,1950-March 30,1974. God look over you.


By SDC, Ferndale, MI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:41 am:

Cheryl, MI:
My prayers are with you and your family as I mentioned before in a prior message to you, my sisters went to school with Janice and she was and still is well thought of.


By danbury; germany on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:09 pm:

Gee, LOL, so what? Just a little harmless fun ... you'd rather see us doing that kind of thing with cars on public roads, yelling "me first" when we reached the next stop sign, red light, whatsoever? Guess not.
That left aside, well - I'd rather push a Ford ... ;D
Though it must be great to live in an area where an old commercial sign in the woods can be some fun instead of just another piece of junk.


By Audrey, San Jose, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:38 pm:

I wanna be first post!!! However, living in CA and with the 3 hour time difference, I'd have to get up at 3 am to be first post. Still, ya never know, someday I might find myself awake and at the computer at that hour and I'll have the honor of first post on the Pasty Cam chat!! How silly! But still, fun! (at least to me)


By JRH,MI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 12:54 pm:

I've been trying to be the last post! The problem I'm having with that is I end up face-first in the keyboard, snoring and drooling, with a bloody nose. I think I'm going to concentrate on just posting willy-nilly.


By Audrey, San Jose, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:05 pm:

to JRH, MI... hahaha! that was funny. The problem with last post, though, is no one gets to read it!! Unless they come back the next day. Thanks for the laugh!


By Evelyn..Murphys, CA. on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:07 pm:

Hey, Audrey, How come it's only two hours time difference from Murphys?


By Dave - Colorado on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:24 pm:

Last time I cheched the U.P. was on Eastern time and Californicated was on Pacific time with Central time and Maoutain time in between... that seems like three hours to me... I thought I was the only one who thought the "me first" thing was... well... odd to say the least...


By me again... on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:25 pm:

and if I checked my spelling I would have changed it to Mountain...


By Audrey, San Jose, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:33 pm:

Evelyn... I think you have your time zones wrong, as it is 3 hours. Unless Murphys is in Mountain time :-)
Dave... for me the first post isn't a "me first" type of thing, I can't even explain it. Just a fun thing. Can't speak for anyone else, though.


By Jack, K Falls Oregon on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 01:45 pm:

Does Marquette Mountain really sound bigger than Cliff's Ridge ?


By Jeff M, FL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 02:06 pm:

My all time favorite "found in the woods" sign was on a cross country ski trail out of Calumet back in 1981. There, in the middle of nowhere, tacked to a tree was a wooden sign with an "X" painted on it, along with the legend, "You are here."
Well of course! Where else would I be!?!? The sign was right...that's where I was.


By Me, Houghton MI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 02:53 pm:

The WHOLE UP isn't on Eastern time, so the difference could be due to where in the UP you are. I don't know exactly where the line runs, but I know Ironwood, Iron Mountain, Crystal Falls, Iron River, etc are on Central time.


By Audrey, SJ, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 02:59 pm:

Me, Houghton... thanks for that info! I had NO idea! I'll have to look at the time zone maps to see. Very interesting!


By Peg in Green Bay on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:35 pm:

I've been searching the pasty.cam site for a long time and can't seem to find the definition of LOL that Pat in Michigan was referring to. Would you repost the meaning of LOL for me. Thanks!


By Louan-Elk Rapids MI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:38 pm:

For Jeff M, FL
My friend, Jane Bean, had a great sense of humor and a perfect saying to cover all such occurances,"No matter where you go, there you are."


By LoL on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:45 pm:

LOL = Laughing Out Loud


By Squiggly Lines on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 04:59 pm:

to Audrey, SJ, CA-
You'll have a good laugh when you check out the time zone line running through the UP- There's GOT to be a story there, wondering if it involved Yooper Beer and some staggering! LOL!


By John, mi. on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:01 pm:

I thought the "first to post" got a weeks supply of free pasties. Didn't it used to be that way? Charlie, are you not sending out free pasties to the "first to post" anymore?


By maijaMI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:02 pm:

Californicated!? Freudian slip?


By smilin' on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:08 pm:

oops... (wink)


By anon/milwaukee on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:15 pm:

It probably had to do with people coming up to the Keweenaw and stopping at the Midway Bar to relax,,and letting the folks who were waiting dinner for them...actually, when the time zone quandary happened it was quite acrinomious...lots of bad feelings! After that, we'd wait till we hit "town" before we changed our watches...and wouldn't change them again till we got back to Wi.


By anon/milwaukee on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:17 pm:

Of course, it was Bosch Beer we relaxed with!!


By Audrey, SJ, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:21 pm:

to Squiggly Lines... I wish I COULD find a UP time zone map so I could see. The best I could find (so far) is a US map. Not much detail there.


By Mike R, New Berlin WWI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:26 pm:

If a U.P. county borders Wisconsin, it is on Central Time. If it doesn't, it is on Eastern.


By Audrey, SJ, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:33 pm:

Mike R. Thanks for that interesting piece of information. Really!


By IN Wi. on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 05:43 pm:

They say here ,that The U P counties bordering WI. are in the central time zone...because they used to "do more trade" in WI.It seems to have to do with WI train schedules and getting things to market??


By been there on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:15 pm:

If you want to find stuff, go down below into the woods beneath the overlook on top of Brockway Mountain. Lots of trash (bottles and cans, etc.), but also old cars, wagon wheels, and other neat old stuff. Never know it looking out from the top.


By dave s wisc on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:16 pm:

no..its so the Wisconsin folks near Watersmeet know what time it is at the casino


By Hoosier on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:19 pm:

From the looks of the bridge cam, Houghton is melting :)


By Stu Michigan on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 06:29 pm:

If you look at the bridge cam to the right of the bridge in the air there might be a U.F.O. It is a round black object.


By DH, CA on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:05 pm:

In Wi,

I think the central time thing happened in the 70's, long after train schedules were of any importance. The population centers, if you can call them that, of these counties are clustered along the border and it probably was more of a retail trade thing.
My parents lived in Escanaba for a few years and the time thing always caused a problem. You had to be careful with any event to see if they meant
"Michigan time" or "Wisconsin time".

Dave.


By Jim Copper Country on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 07:08 pm:

re Time Zones....in the 1960s, the UP was on Central Time while Lower Michigan was on Eastern Time...anybody remember changing their clocks at the Bridge? Later on, all of Michigan found itself in the Eastern Time zone....and more recently the 4 Wisconsin border counties opted to go on Central Time, mainly for the aforementioned commerce reasons


By ruth, Mi on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:53 pm:

in the '60's, when I was in college, the State decided they'd withhold funding if the UP did not get on the Eastern time band wagon...I remember one year when we had two times, "school time" and "bar time". Anyone else recall that? Made for lots of scheduling issues!


By Lisa, WI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:21 pm:

In our family, it's known as "fast time" and "slow time." Wisconsin is on "slow time" (Central time). Since we have some people in both time zones, it works for us.


By Dave K, Wis. on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:08 pm:

Ruth,

How well I do remember. I was attending MTU that summer, when the Federal Uniform Time Act went into effect. What that act did was mandate that each state would have to be on the same time and abide by the dictates of Daylight Savings time. To get out of this, the state would have to vote to opt out of the FUTA entirely. So, that summer when it went into effect, we were on Eastern Daylight Time. In Ironwood, it didn't get dark until 11:00PM. Golfers loved it, the drive-in theaters died. I worked at a bar in Calumet, which revolted and stayed on CDT. After closing, I would drive to Houghton to get a few hours sleep to make my eight 'o clock. What a mess!


By Phoenix, AZ on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:12 pm:

And for all of us former Yoopers now living in Arizona (where at 8 p.m. it has cooled off to 89 degrees here in Phoenix), you have to stop and think about what time it is back home when you call your family because AZ remains on Mountain Standard Time the whole year. When everyone else is on daylight savings time, we are the same time as California--3 hours earlier than Michigan. The other half of the year we are 2 hours earlier than Michigan, and 1 hour later than California. Can be a bit confusing until you get used to it.


By Jannie - WI on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:25 pm:

To Jeff M in Fla. Great Story! I do beleive that God intended for us to view life from that point of view...it is not supposed to be as complex as we all seem to make it. Your posting was my favorite moment of my day!

...We only have so many minutes in our life...make the most of them....


By Mike M, Kalamazoo on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:57 pm:

Two of my favorites sayings:
- Where ever you go, there you are.
- If you don't know where you're going, you'll be sure to get there. (credit to Dr Wm Martinson, 1977, Western Mich Univ.)


By dave s wisc on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 11:11 pm:

I saw that UFO too...was going to mention it, then figured by the time anyone else got over there, it would be gone anyhow...
they're probably looking for their lost souvenier from earth...I think they said it was some sign about a ski team and chevy or something like that


By Dave of Mohawk on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 12:05 am:

I remember when the choice of daylight savings time was on the Michigan ballot. Don't remember the year but I'm guessing early 70's.


By Kevin K. Lodi, CA on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 02:05 am:

Last post of the day!

Good night all.


By Night Owl on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 02:11 am:

Sorry! Couldn't let ya be the last post.....!


By John, mi. on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 02:29 am:

last post pays the bar tab ... ;(


By Kevin K. Lodi, CA. on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 11:07 am:

Night Owl,

That was cold!


By vaalea on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 03:51 pm:

College town + downed sign + big hill = Sled


By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 04:18 pm:

From michigan.gov (FAQs):
For an exact link, copy this URL and paste it in your browser (the embedded comma in the URL makes it a bit nasty to post here as a link):
www.michigan.gov/emi/0,1303,7-102-698-2331--F,00.html

Q: What time is it in Michigan?
A: Most of Michigan is in the United States Eastern Time Zone.
Four counties (Gogebic, Iron, Dickinson, and Menominee) in the western Upper Peninsula that share their southern border with the state of Wisconsin are in the United States Central Time Zone.
Michigan uses Daylight Savings Time from 2:00 am on the first Sunday in April until 2:00 am on the last Sunday in October.

see also... US Time Zones - Michigan

And for another wrinkle...
It is not exactly correct to say that "AZ remains on Mountain Standard Time". While that is true for most of the state, just to make life interesting, the Navajo Reservation, which occupies a rather large chunk of real estate in the northeast corner of Arizona, does use daylight Saving Time!

Homework assignment: What is the the time zone and DST situation on the Hopi Reservation (which is completely surrounded by the Navajo Nation?)

)

By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 04:35 pm:

Another good World Time Reference: World Time Server


By FRNash/PHX, AZ on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 05:50 pm:

For the "official" word on the boundary line between the eastern and central time zones in Michigan (from the October 1, 2003 edition of Title 49,US Code of Federal Regulations):

49 CFR Subtitle A (10𢴎3 Edition)

71.5 Boundary line between eastern and central zones.

(a) Minnesota-Michigan-Wisconsin.
From the junction of the western boundary of the State of Michigan with the boundary between the United States and Canada northerly and easterly along the west line of Gogebic County to the west line of Ontonagon County;

thence south along the west line of Ontonagon County to the north line of Gogebic County;

thence southerly and easterly along the north line of Gogebic County to the west line of Iron County;

thence north along the west line of Iron County to the north line of Iron County;

thence east along the north line of Iron County to the east line of Iron County;

thence south along the east line of Iron County to the north line of Dickinson County;

thence east along the north line of Dickinson County to the east line of Dickinson County;

thence south along the east line of Dickinson County to the north line of Menominee County;

thence east along the north line of Menominee County to the east line of Menominee County;

thence southerly and easterly along the east line of Menominee County to Lake Michigan;

thence east to the western boundary of the State of Michigan;

thence southerly and easterly along the western boundary of the State of Michigan to a point in the middle of Lake Michigan opposite the main channel of Green Bay;

thence southerly along the western boundary of the State of Michigan to its junction with
the southern boundary thereof and the northern boundary of the State of Indiana.

(In short, all of Gogebic, Iron, Dickinson, and Menominee counties are in the Central Time Zone, as noted previously.)



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