political commentary

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: January: Jan 21-04: political commentary
Some speech about speech and the speech
By yooper U.P on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 03:31 pm:

Great speech by Bush last night followed up by studdering democrats. Go troops, you guys rock.


By Karen P, MN on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 03:41 pm:

Please, yooper U.P., no politics. We are not going to agree on whether the speech was great or not. That's why we have 2 major parties and a handful of others, and why there are so many running for nomination of the Democrats.

I will second your sentiment of "Go troops, you guys rock."


By Ron, Michigan on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 03:49 pm:

Karen P., While I agree this is not the forum for a political debate, there is a thing called "Freedom of Speech", a freedom that everyone posting on this site is able to use, thanks to people like the Soldier in Iraq.

God bless our troops.


By danbury, germany on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 04:05 pm:

Freedom of speech? Hm, yeah. No political forum? as long as we keep ourselves in check, that too. ;-)
And since there appear to be a lot of people on this site who believe in praying (something I can't without being a hypocrite), how about a prayer for the souls of those lost in war? All of them?


By DJ Whitten on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 08:01 pm:

Hey "yooper U.P." .... I think I love you!
Great posting.


By spelling test on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 08:09 pm:

stuttering democrats


By Rivera on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 08:34 pm:

Yes to President Bush, our military and the Constitution
No to the UN and their "puppet democrats"


By John-Canton on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:47 am:

Indeed Danbury. Have stated here before that if we
wanted to go to a political or religious we would
go there.Go Kerry!


By Downstate Matti on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 02:01 am:

"Ron K. from Mich" Are you the former drill sergeant that retired, went to Tech and hawked me most every day in 93 and 94. If so what are you up to.
Matti


By Ray Don Gass on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 06:58 am:

On the subject of speech: The Supreme Court's 5-4 decision on 10 DEC 03 affirming the bipartisan campaign finance reform act has limited free speech and Congress has made clear that this is only the first step.

Justice Kennedy, in his dissenting opinion, made clear that Title I bars individuals with shared beliefs from
pooling their money above limits set by Congress to
form a new third party. See new FECA 323(a).


BCRA would have imposed felony punishment
on Ross Perot.s 1996 efforts to build the Reform Party.
Compare Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (FECA)
309(d)(1)(A), 315(a)(1)(B), and 323(a)(1) (prohibiting, by
up to five years. imprisonment, any individual from giving
over $25,000 annually to a national party), with Spending
By Perot, The Houston Chronicle, Dec. 13, 1996, p. 43
(reporting Perot.s $8 million founding contribution to the
Reform Party). BCRA makes it a felony for an environ-
mental group to broadcast an ad, within 60 days of an
election, exhorting the public to protest a Congressman.s
impending vote to permit logging in national forests. See
BCRA 203.

Another justice, perhaps it was Justice Thomas, referred to the act's limitations of speech whereby we can now refer to a federal candidate as "he whose name cannot be spoken".

It is a sad day for free speech, a sad day for out Republic.

When our government was being formed, "Publius" argued and defined our Constitution in the fierce debate waged in New York newspapers. Publius, writing anonymously in support of the Constitution, would likely be subject to federal penatlies under BCRA.

Be uh-fraid, be very UH-fraid!


By KJ, Mich. on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 07:58 am:

No weapons of mass destruction. No link to Al Queda. More people hating us, around the world, than ever before, making us less safe than ever before. Even our long time friends, thinking we are out of control. Don't forget, even Hussien was our long time friend, back when he was doing the deads, that we are now wanting to hang him for. He even got a nice handshake from Rumsfeild. Our soldiers are dying every day. Iraqi people are dying every day. The Shites are now disappointed, that Bush didn't just hand them the country, as they had hoped. What a very sad MESS. I need to hear what it is in peoples heart, that can make them want to defend Bush, and say he is doing a good job. A good job at what? Oh yeah.... if you want your freedoms taken away... one by one... he is doing a very good job of that.
Yeah..... be uh-fraid!


By Col. B. H. Keller U.S.M.C. ret. on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 06:10 pm:

Bush has ,without a doubt, done more to recruit for al Quaida than can be imagined. Iraq posed no security threat to America but with Bush's arrogant policy to invade- once friendly Arabs are now angry and alienated. Our war on terror has been compromised by Bush's criminal policies. The Nazi cheering gallery that prompted and supported Hitler's wrath upon Europe is not unlike the right-wing neocons .... Clinton's worst day was far better than Bush's best day.


By Sgt. V. Carter, ret. Navy on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:17 pm:

Yep, just ask Monica Lewinski.


By G G, Michigan on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 12:01 am:

Three cheers for the "good old days", when Monica Lewinski was our nations biggest problem.


By Fred-Proud Michigan Vet on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 05:19 pm:

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" (Edmund Burke)


By hubert b bellicosity on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 09:41 pm:

imagine irag evolving a separation of church and state in their growth toward freedom.

probably won't happen.

imagine the usa evolving a separation of science and state doctrine, with history to remind us of what can happen without one--nazi germany--or the present day usa.

probably won't happen.

and that's nicely ambiguous.


By E.N. on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 05:33 pm:

To Fred: I totally agree with you--Hopefully the 2004 will prove Edmund Burke right. GO JOHN KERRY!!!!!!


By K .G. on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 06:55 am:

GO KERRY, DEAN OR CLARK!!! May the best man win, to show Bush the door, in 2004!!!!!


By Jamie, NMU '86 on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 08:16 am:

I was at a Packer game in November, and I got stuck sitting behind two women who paid no attention to the game. Instead, they were discussing American Idol and Queer Eye for the Straight Guy throughout the entire game. They missed the point of being at Lambeau Field.

So, here I find you people yacking it up about politics in the most absurd place: a website dedicated to the beauty of the U.P.

I say now what I said at Lambeau: Take it out to the concession stand, ladies. We don't care to hear it here.

This site is for photographic wonders.
Not political wondering.


By Fred on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 07:31 pm:

Jamie,
Why do you think these "posts" were put on this seperate page?



Powered by:  
Join Today!
Messages can no longer be posted to these older discussion pages, but you are welcome to join the conversation on Today's Pasty Cam

Here's a list of messages posted in the past 24 hours

See our guest photo gallery for more great views from the U.P.

While in the Copper Country be sure to visit
On US-41 north of Calumet
on US-41 in Kearsarge, a mile north of Calumet.
(The home of Pasty Central)

Home | Pasty Cam | Contest | Order Now | Bridge Cam | Pasty.NET | GP Hall of Fame | Making Pasties | Questions