Oct 24-02

Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2002: October: Oct 24-02
Classic Lake of the Clouds...    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Kelly Wenberg
...ever changing canvas...    ...scroll down to share comments
Photos by Dan Urbanski
Sky beginning to clear    ...scroll down to share comments
Photo by Z-Man

Charlie at Pasty Central on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:02 am:

This fall here at Pasty Central we have seen the progression of color at Lake of the Clouds by way of our photo inbox. Here are three select shots. Kelly Wenberg's (top) shows a stone wall, which rarely appears in this scene, just as colors started to appear. The middle one from Dan Urbanski accents the tall pines mixed among the changing leaves. Finally, Z-man shot the view with a backdrop of puffy white clouds... the way it looked, no doubt, the day the lake received its name.

By Naomi,East Lansing MI on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:37 am:

WOW, What a BEAUTIFUL,SPECTACULAR showing of color! Just set the bottom pic as my new wallpaper-
Makes me HOMESICK for the U.P!
My fiancee Doug and I went UP to see the fall colors this year on the East end near Whitefish point and Tachumenon falls and have some great pics {now hanging in a frame on our dining room wall}and memories of that trip: ) 2 weeks ago,didnt have enough time on this recent trip to make it "home"to the west end to the Keweenaw to see the colors {hopefully next years fall tour trip;) But thanks for sharing your pics Kelly,Dan and Zman!

By Jeff Laitila, Japan on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 09:49 am:


Great color!

I can almost smell that crisp fall air.

Thanks for the dose of home.



By Becky, Lansing/Tamarack on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:01 am:

All great pictures!! and what an interesting wall. Thanks.

By ashley, mi on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:14 am:

wow nice!!! really nice!!!

By Karen P, MN on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:24 am:

Not only are the colors a little different in each picture, but the sun lights up a different hillside. Marvelous, all three. Thanks!

By Montana on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:30 am:

In late fall of 1976, I moved from Missoula, MT into a lakeside trailer one mile from the Porkies. My friends and I spent the last days of fall hiking and the winter backcountry skiing the park. In early spring, we moved back to Montana. Unfortunately, I haven't been back except for a short visit in 1979. Your pictures brought back a lot of memories. Thanks

By ShawnR, GR MI on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:44 am:

All three are soooo beautiful! Thank you Kelly, Dan and Z-man! I was just UP there about 10 days ago, but never seem to get my fill. I always find something new and beautiful. Truly God's country.

By Danny, Boston Massachussetts on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:52 am:

This trio of glorious majesty brings me back to a simpler time. A younger time full of adventure. Superb pictures. Yummy!

By KARA, CLEVELAND OHIO on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:07 pm:

Tears are rolling down my meloncholy cheeks as I gaze wonderously at autumn's mysterious and grandiose scape. Daydreaming of Michigan's U.P is the only thing that will keep my mind off my long lost love Bernard, my beloved Chocolate Labrador of 15 years. Amen.

By PK, West Bend, WI on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:10 pm:

Thanks for the pics. I hope someday to be able to backpack to Mirror Lake and Lake of the Clouds. I am currently receiving Chemo treatments for breast cancer, and a backpacking trip to one of the cabins in the Porkies is one of my goals.

By Kathi, Detroit factory rat on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:46 pm:

To Kara in Cleveland: my sympathy - losing a treasured pet is always difficult. I've been there, too.

To PK in West Bend: Hang in there and beat that nasty cancer! Hope you'll be UP there soon!

To Kelly, Dan, and Z-Man: THANK YOU so much for sharing your gorgeous photos! Spectacular scenery!

By Amberly, Port Huron on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 01:47 pm:

To Kara from Cleveland, I am crying after reading what you just wrote, I know how hard it is to lose a beloved pet,my heart goes out to you.God Bless!
And to PK from West Bend WI- Good Luck through all of your chemo treatments, I am sure you will be backpaking through the Porkies soon- My prayers are with both you and Karen both going through difficult times!

By Maggie, Ann Arbor on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 02:00 pm:

This site seems to show the heart and the soul of the "GOOD PEOPLE" from the U.P.,whether there now, or are displaced yoopers,we all share a common bond and a goodness and kindness not found in many places, Once crossing the Big Mac,you almost instantly notice the change in the way people are on the Northern side and treat one another everyone,friends or strangers are all greeted with a open heart and a kindness not seen in big citys and some small ones as well.. I am proud to be a Yooper,some laugh and think the people in the U.P. are slower paced or backward is the response I seem to hear from the" city folk "here in downtown Ann Arbor, But I laugh and think if being good hearted and having a true and giving soul makes us backwards ,Cause we dont cringe at the sight of snow, and a foot doesnt cripple us for days,cause we are a hearty bunch who takes what weather and for that matter life gives us and we make the best of it well than count me in! The U.P. truely is GOD'S Country!

By Lyndelle Chiomenti on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:17 pm:

Interesting messages going on here. Especially since two helicopters with swat teams roared over our house at 3 this morning to catch the Maryland/Virginia/D.C. snipers sleeping in a rest area just 11 miles from our house in Frederick, Maryland. Imagine my fright when I turned on the TV to hear that sniper activity was occuring in Frederick. Imagine my relief when at 3:30 we heard there was not another killing, but the capture we had all been praying for. Ten people dead. Three critically wounded. Families forever changed. As for me, can't wait to retire in the UP...

By Uncle Bud/Mohawk on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:27 pm:

Inflamatory remarks removed by the editor

By mdk, CA on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:28 pm:

...I've been all over the US and have seen many awesome and majestic sights. Our country is truly beautiful. But, the UP seems to have a little of everything. Maybe not the grandeur of Yosemti's granite mountains, but Brockway and the Porkies. Maybe not the Redwoods, but miles and miles of colorful birch and maple. Maybe not the Grand Canyon, but lovely waterfalls. Maybe not the abundance our oceans offer in plants and sealife, but the breathtaking stillness of a massive freshwater lake or it's fury in storms. It is all right there.

To PK in West Bend: I send wishes for a full recovery. Hang in there!

By Amberly again-Port Huron on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:38 pm:

I love this site,and I love to meet all the other Yoopers and former yoopers ,and have met some good people and people who I now call friends. So to Charlie,I hope that this site will stay just as it is ..WONDERFUL!

By Jon,Amanda,and Elisabeth Fenton on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:41 pm:

is uncle bud right????? Please, Dont take our site away! Charlie

By Sherry, FL on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 03:51 pm:

Thank Goodness we live in the USA where we have the freedom to express our thoughts. With all the things going on in our counrty and the world these days, I wish strengh and God's blessings on us all.

By Carl Levis, Coral Springs on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:26 pm:

True dat, Sherry! Hey, we should get together. The yooper Florida connection.

By Grandpa in Wisconsin on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:27 pm:

Beautiful pictures. My recolection is a bit different due to time lapse, 1935. Was in Bessemer for a funeral, and my mother's cousin drove me up via back country lanes, then we hiked some miles to the top of Porcupines through barren rocky terrain with scrub brush. At the top we could easily see Lake Superior on one side, Lake of the Woods on the other, latter surrounded by evergreen growth only.
Two men in a canoe were moving across, but there was no other sign of human habitat as far as we could see. Now, what a beautiful sight, and hopefully for the better. My children, grandchildren (Riemers) and Pasty now fill out my dreams.

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia, But For How Long? on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 04:58 pm:

There are no words for the beauty of those pictures. The Finger of God strikes again!


By marty h. on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:19 pm:

please never close the site, it helps me with the pain i suffer from due to club foot.

By froggy on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:20 pm:

My people have been in the U.P. from the 1800s. They all appreciated the beauty and nature found in the U.P. They were a hardened but gentle people who seemed to be able to keep things in balance. Charlie, ...Thank you for the years of enjoyment I have received by checking daily on this site. Keep it up.

By Kevin K. Ca. on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 05:40 pm:


We have the Sierra's here in Cal. But nothing beats a Michigan Fall. Makes me homesick.
Keep up the good work.
The site gives me a taste of home every day.

By Jacky in Ohio on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 06:14 pm:

I've never posted here before... Charlie, we visited your area for the first time this last summer, and we can't wait to come again. It truly is God's country. Keep up the good work, and know that we do appreciate what you do.

By Candy, Yooper in California on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 06:15 pm:

...Some of us look forward to these "time outs" as among the best parts of our day.

By Tbel,MN on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:02 pm:

...This site is a number of things. A great place to view wonderful pictures by great people. A way to help support Stillwaters and the work they do, and among many more a place to visit as you would with your neighbor on your porch or over coffee downtown.
Thank you Charlie!!!

By Toivo from Toivola on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:49 am:

Charlie, good editing job today - - I notice a few differences than earlier. Thanks for keeping Pasty Central a place the whole family can visit every day.

By Sherry in FL on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:30 am:

Charlie, Thanks for removing those postings from yesterday. I do not post to this site often, I check out the bridge cam to see the weather up there. My Mom lives in Houghton and she gets a kick when I call and ask if the rain/fog/snow or whatever is affecting her. Thanks for all you and the others do to show the beauty of the UP and the kindness of the people.

By Melissa, Grand Ledge, MI on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:35 am:

Just chiming in on the thanks Charlie. Your editing is much appreciated.

By Becky, Lansing/Tamarack on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:37 am:

Thanks Charlie, glad to see the site on Friday morning. Don't know what I'd do without it!!!!

By PSmith SC on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:45 am:

Tahnk you Charlie for the beautiful pictures and comments we so much enjoy everyday. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to those snow scenes, as long as I don't have to shovel the stuff.

By ss on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:27 am:

I need my daily UP fix. Thanks for editing the hostile comments that are so uncharacteristic of the residents who generously and kindly maintain God's Country for the rest of us to dream of. For those of us who are unable to return home each year (even if it was only Grandma's home and not really our own), this site gives us a daily reminder of where we come from and what it means to be truly civilized.

By froggy on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:47 am:

Nice job Charlie!

By Joan, Ohio on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:58 am:

Thanks for the editing...somethings need not be said on a public site, whether it be true or not. Yes, we have free speech, thank our ancestors for that, but we should try to be positive and have Love all the time. I am from the U.P. and visit every year and love all parts of it! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!! Thanks for the wonderful pictures of one of our favorite spots...Lake of the clouds!

By Karen P, MN on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:03 am:

Kiitos, Joan. Well said.
Kiitos also to Charlie, Toivo and all the wonderful photographers.

By EM,MI on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:09 am:

Thanks Charlie, I'm a computer newbie, PastyNetand this spot are my security blanket, thanks for keeping it clean, all the homesick yoopers need a fix once in awhile & this is a great way to get it. Thanks again.

By MM LL MI on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:56 am:

wow, you had your hands full yesterday....thanks Charlie, your right on top of things. It may be extra work you had not anticipated, however we sure do appreciate your efforts!

By Dave Cloutier, Colorado on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:15 am:

Once again you have demonstrated tasteful management of this wonderful web site.... Keep up the good work!

By Mike, Pontiac on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:17 am:

Hello Charlie
I may have thrown my two cents in a time or two before but today I have a nickel to spend. I did not read the edited inflamatory remarks, however, I do agree with your editing. You created this site in your mind's eye and you should be able to keep it as you envisioned. The UP and more specifically the Keweenaw is one of the most wonderful regions I have ever had the privelege to visit but it is more than mere beauty. To me the UP represents a better way of life and a 'treat others as you would like to be treated' attitude. It is the people of the UP that make it what it is - not simple natural beauty. People like yourself Charlie.
Thank You

By Frances.Ga on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 11:45 am:

Charlie, I agree with Mike. I did read the remarks and was so grateful that you edited them. This site is great because of all the good people people who want to share photos and bits of their lives with other Pasty Cam friends.Thanks Charlie!

By thomas layton, IL on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:07 pm:

i missed the statements everyone is talking about, but I wanted to show my appreciation with a poem.

the wind howls, the leaves swirl.
pumpkins are carved, as we bundle our little girls.

fall in the UP is beautiful indeed, the life is a simple one

and go packers.

thanks charlie!

By Jim from Apple Valley, MN on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:26 pm:

I was up in Copper Country last weekend to work the Lake Superior Pro Rally. I hadn't been there for 25 years. I had forgotten how beautiful it is. I met a bunch of really nice Yoopers. I don't plan to forget again. I hope to utilize you site to remind me until I get up there again - next year, I hope.


By Naomi,East Lansing MI on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 12:46 pm:

I saw yesterdays remarks,and I too agree with the many posting above that say THANK YOU,Charlie! Wonderful editing job! Your site brings a bit of home to all of us displaced yoopers-and so many of us look forward daily to check the new pics and postings(myself among the many)
There are so very many wonderful postings and really caring people who truley love the U.P. and reading the many postings this afternoon,really makes me proud to be from the U.P. and to call myself a yooper! THANKS AGAIN!

By Jeff Laitila, Japan on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:06 pm:


Keep the great photos coming. Us displaced Yoopers need them! ^_^

By thomas layton, IL on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:17 pm:

i too am very proud to call myself a yooper. it's hard telling them down here the appreciation one can have for such a beautiful place. they may have their skyscrapers, but i have a pasty waiting for me in ontogonon!

praise the lord and pass the potatoes...that's always been a little family joke that only someone from the UP can truly feel and understand.

god bless bruce's crossing.

By nicole t., MI on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:53 pm:

...I agree on the tasty pasties!

I've lived in the UP for most of my life, and I've never heard praise the lord and pass the potatoes...can someone explain that?

those pics are great. I've been stricken with thin blood, so making the climb to view the lake has been dificult. thanks for the inspiration!


By Curious in Calumet on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:10 pm:

Can you fish at Lake of the Clouds? Is there a trail that goes down to the water? What types of fish are in the lake?

By Alex Tiensivu, Georgia on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:17 pm:

It looks like a person was deleted from the system and remarks removed. I am grateful for that, because this is without ANY doubt, the most peaceful and wonderful Website I have ever been on, and I would be lost without it.

I hope I don't sound stupid, but NO ONE knows what this Website does for me daily!

Alex Tiensivu

By Amberly,Port Huron on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:41 pm:

I totally can understand where you are coming from Alex! 100%
This site is my daily does of "home" and peace in a crazy busy world and really makes me just feel so good to see these beautiful pics and read all the comments from the fellow yoopers displaced or otherwise!

By julie in Maryland on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 04:38 pm:

P.K. in West Bend: Hang in there! All my best wishes for a speedy recovery.

By DENNIS JARVI FENTON MI on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 04:49 pm:


By Paul Meier on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:20 pm:

Excellent pictures, excellent site!
I only saw part of yesterday's exchange. I do not regret missing the whole.
As voiced by the rest of the folks, thanks for the deletions and for coming back on line today.

By Julie, Ann Arbor on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:41 pm:

are you ok Charlie? no new Friday posting? We are getting worried. Hope all is well,we miss you.

By Pegg, Fla on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:45 pm:

To P.K., I'll be praying for you. I beat breast cancer and so can you!!!!! Faithfully keep telling yourself that you have already been healed. A positive attitude is the best medicine. Doctors even agree now, I read it in a Reader's Digest a few months back.

To Kara, My heartfelt sympathies. Several years ago my black lab Dixie was sitting next to me on the ground. She stood up, then collapsed and died in my arms. She was 12. I then got Rose, another black, and a year later, Norman, a yellow. I call them my salt and pepper shakers. Go get yourself a puppy quick. Better yet, get two....

And thanks Charlie. I missed (fortunately, I'm guessing) what was said because I did my civic duty yesterday as a juror, (and it was actually fun).
How great that we live in a country where we have freedom and choices. Keep up the great work. I too need a daily dose of UP.

By gf on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:11 pm:

i agree with pegg from florda.where are you today charlie.hope you are ok

By Greta, Ca on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:26 pm:

Ditto all the above thanks, for deleting negative remarks yesterday, Charlie... Whew! Let's move on.

By Tbel, MN on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:40 pm:

To Curious in Calumet: yes there are trails down to Lake of the clouds and you can fish it. Unfortunately I can't tell you whether or not the fishing is good.
Charlie: Ditto on the editing and thank you!!!!!!!!

By L in Laurium on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:47 pm:

To Curious in Calumet: Yes, there are trails throughout the Porkies. I strongly suggest you pick up a copy of The Porcupines Mountains Companion 4th edition by Michael Rafferty and Robert Sprague.

By Jeff, Illinois on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:18 pm:

Great pictures. When I first saw them I thought it was Lake Fanny Hoe, just south of Copper Harbor. It's always been a dream of mine to have a place on that lake. I think about that when I'm in downtown Chicago wondering what am I doing here!!!

By Randy in Aura, Michigan on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:23 pm:

Living in the UP is definitely different. Not only do we have the beauty of an autumn day as depicted by Kelly, Dan and Zman, but other seasons as well. Three hundred inches of glorious fluffy pure white snow in the winter. The green leaves and grass of spring, so green it makes your eyes hurt on sunny days and tons of mosquitoes and gnats (no-see-ums). And hot steamy summer days with temperature in the 80ís and humidity to match. I know, itís not for everybody, but I wouldnít change a thing. As we say up here, ďThe cold weather, snow and bugs keep away the riff-raff). We like it that way. Iím sure Z-man would agree with me. If you want, Iíll ask him; we work at the same place :)

By Kate, CA on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:06 pm:

fellow yoopers for sharing the scenery with us.
You touch my spirit.

By Eric, SC on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 12:29 pm:

Outstanding work on your site, and on your photos! Please keep up the great work! My wife and I like it here in South Carolina, but we come back to the UP as often as we can!

By Diane,Clinton Twp,Mi. on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 08:35 pm:

Hi-love all the pictures and they make me very UP homesick. Haven't been up to the UP in years but I am coming there next summer. My parents family came from Finland and settled in the copper country. I think the place they lived was called Trap Rock. The men all worked in the copper mines. Will have to share some very old pictures sometimes. Made this picture my wallpaper. I have started getting books from Copper World on the Finns in Mi. and the Copper Country. Highly recommend them. Once again thank you very much

By ga-Ontonagon, MI on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 02:09 pm:

Beautiful pictures of the Lake of the Clouds. Love the web-site. Leaves on the ground and still in the trees, rain-snow don't know which, Beautiful though.

By Tom Leisure, Indiana on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:17 am:

Thank you. I lived in Marquette for 27 years and traveled the U.P.from tip to tip, north and south, east and west. I spent time working in Calumet and Laurium so this brought back some memories. A friend gave me this website and now I have difficulty leaving it!

By Elaine Martinmaki Bersoza on Tuesday, December 3, 2002 - 10:44 am:

I came "home" in June and had forgotten how utterly incredibly beautiful it is there - I am now living in the desert near the Colorado River in Lake Havasu City, Arizona - I so miss Home - was born in Laurium and lived in Laurium and Calumet for 24 years when I left . . would love to spend my summers there and winters here!

By Bruce, Mi on Sunday, December 8, 2002 - 02:43 pm:

Wow great pictures.

By Rose-----In Eastern Oregon on Sunday, January 5, 2003 - 05:16 pm:

Thank you for the beautiful pictures.Rose

By kaylee,maine on Sunday, November 9, 2003 - 11:57 am:

im doing a project about georgia

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