October 2001

Past-E-Mail: October 2001
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Alicia , Mich. on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 11:46 am:

This is a long shot, but could those of you who had/have relatives or friends that lived in Allouez in the 1930's ask if any of them remember
Mikka Kentta or Michael Kentta.He died in the early 1930's.Still trying to track down any of the family.He is buried in the Ahmeek Cemetery.

By jack, id on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 11:25 am:

i took my yooper scooper out here in northern idaho, and while i was using it (they get a whole 50in. of snow a year out here) some lady came up to me and told me what a unique "child's sled" i had. if they only knew...

By Martha, Mishawaka, Indiana on Saturday, October 27, 2001 - 12:50 pm:

Having grown up in Copper Harbor, and being blessed with a father who was one of those guys who could "do anything", I have a home-made snow scoop that I use where I live now in Northern Indiana. You should have seen the neighbor's stare when I first got it out and started using it! "What IS that?" they wanted to know. I told them that everyone had one of these where I came from. I started to try to tell them about a "snow walk" that people put up from their front doors to the sidewalk in the winter, but that was too much for their imaginations. I'm not sure if they couldn't imagine the snow walk or whether they couldn't imagine that much snow!

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Shayne Laitila on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 04:40 am:

I am having one heckuva time finding a "Yooper Scooper" here in Thailand! hope we don't get any snow soon! holy wuh...its already almost November too. hehe...

This site sure is great for us yoopers so violently uprooted and cast to dark and mysterious corners of the world. There is no Old Mil' here and no pasties either. It's a hard life.

Sure do miss the UP, especially in the fall. This is a great way to keep in touch with reality even if it is virtual reality. Keep up the great work guys and gals and keep the photos coming. They are appreciated more than you know.

Enjoy the winter folks. Heikki Lunta is coming.

ps...Gerritt Pouttuu where are you? email me at igotavanbaby@hotmail.com

I have stories...

By David H on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 12:26 am:

I yoosta be a yooper,now down here in troll land.But I can get me a great pasty & carrot cake at a place in Clawson MI.called Barb's.The family is from Calumet.Also go for Sauna in Southfield.But can't find a snow scoop anywhere around here.

By SHAWNKY. on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 02:28 pm:


By Charlie at Pasty Central on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 03:02 pm:

Erk -

The last time I was in Erkilla's they had moved to the Mine Street Station out by Pamida and Pat's IGA in Calumet. Haven't been in for a couple of months, but I think they're still going strong.


By ERKKILLAS AUTO on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 02:57 pm:

Can anyone tell me if ERKKILLAS CAR QUEST is still open I know they where trying to sell and the last time I was there they had moved or shut down.If they sold out who bought them ? and how are they doing ??

By Janet Tourville, MI. on Saturday, October 20, 2001 - 03:07 pm:

Tell Leona Byers (Hubbell, MI.) to answer her e mail from Janet Tourville.

By Charlie Cloutier - Michigan on Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 11:46 am:

Anyone out there in pasty land from Esky Class of 54? Got another reunion coming up in a couple years plus a little bit. Time to start putting things together for those of us that are still hanging in there.
Charlie Cloutier
9207 Woodland Drive
Onekama, MI 49675-9745
231 889 0863

By Katy, Wis on Thursday, October 18, 2001 - 08:53 am:

Thanks Frank!!!
I really appreciate it.. and I've had bad pasties too, but that's alright because in order to find a good pasty it takes eatting a lot of bad ones, Right??
Well... I don't need anymore info. on Stella's because I went there yesterday to check it out and the owner was there and she said she got her recipe from Nagani, MI. I don't know how to spell the town. But it smelled so good in the shop...
oh I wanted to stay but I couldn't.. Just to try one. There was actually a lot of people eatting in and they said that they loved Stella's so it couldn't be that bad because one of the old man that I talked to said that he lived up in the UP and it tasted just like back when he ate them when he was twenty. So I guess they're not as bad as some people say. Don't judge until you have tried, right? well I got to get going now so see you guys tomorrow.


By Frank, Illinois on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 10:43 am:

Katy--thanks for returning to say Hi! Figured it was due to HABDS (Having A Bad Day Syndrome!) so no one got too ruffled.

There are some that would say there's no such thing as a bad pasty, but I've HAD bad and would disagree. ;-)

I've tried them from several places and wasn't too impressed, but will be placing an order from Pasty Central based on all the glowing comments I've read here, just to see what a "real" pasty tastes like--can't wait!


By Katy, Wis. on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 08:55 am:

Thank you all for writing to me... I didn't realize what I have written. That day everything was going wrong for me. Please accept my apology for my rudeness. I was not thinking...
So do you all think Stella's Pasty shop is a bad place then?? I was just wondering. I've been to the Pasty Koop.. they have pretty good pasties too.
I apologize for my rude remarks and actions.
please forgive me...

By Renee in IL on Wednesday, October 17, 2001 - 02:20 am:

Thanks Charlie! I will! I "tune in" at least every other day or so and alot of times more often then that!!
Best wishes,
Renee in IL

By Renee in IL on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 10:29 am:

Hello Charlie and all!
I just love this site and all it's great pictures, info. and all it has to offer!!
Just was wondering if anyone happens to know any history about Runkle Lake in the Crystal Falls area? My maiden name was Runkle so I am curious about the background info on the lake.
Best wishes,
Renee in IL

Stay tuned...maybe somebody out there has a lead for you.

By gloria seppala long, mich on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 07:27 pm:

Hi Past-E Cam - Am a new reader of your site. enjoy most of the mail - especially those that have a long history in the area, ancestors wereFinland and Norway. My grandfathers' names were Tikkanen and Seppala. I spent childhood and teenage summers in Beacon Hill and Redridge, Liminga. I love the U.P. - Copper Country. I walked on the stamp sand, picked blueberries in the 40's, knew many people along the Liminga road and in Beacon Hill. Even met Billy Brinkman once - I could go on and on. Some of my relatives were: Marrtila, Koivu, Haivila and Ylitalo. Friends were: Sten, Mylloija (?) Nissen, Posey, Morin, Marinelli - probably more - but they don't come to mind at the moment. My brother ordered pasties from Pasty Central, he lives in Seattle, Washington - his family loved them. Would love an acknowledgment of my e-mail and would not mind hearing from descendants from the above mentioned areas. Live in Ferndale, Mich. now.

By Mel Johnson, WA on Sunday, October 14, 2001 - 02:18 pm:


It was good to see your website, since pasties were a family staple with us.

I would appreciate contact with anyone who might know of my TUCKER or SELLER ancestors, most of whom were born in Calumet. The family began in Calumet with Christopher Tucker, and his wife, Mary Cecilia Seller. Their children were:

Zaida, b. 1888
Iva, b. 1889
Joseph, b. 1891
Effie Ruth, b. 1893
Christopher, b. 1894
Ruth Cecilia, b. 1897
Merle Seller, b. 1898
Winston Harris, b. 1901
Euncice, b. 1906
Alvin Henry, b. 1908
June, b. unknown

Thank you.
Mel Johnson

By Jan Wisconsin on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 07:20 pm:

Hi Charlie, Thanks for the response: I stand corrected. A hugh thanks to your staff and all the residents at STILL WATERS.
Jan Medved

By Jan Wisconsin on Saturday, October 13, 2001 - 01:59 pm:

Hey Kati from Wisconsin,lighten up,,,,this is a great site, Keep watching, you will learn a lot about the UP

Charlie, we just returned from Calumet last nite. The colors are still great, maybe not as vivid, but Mother Nature still knows how to put on a show. The ride to the harbor was wonderful, and the weather was perfect for that time of the year in the UP. Had a great time visiting old friends and of course family.

Thank you for this site Charlie.
Jan Medved

<Charlie>: Thanks, Jan, for the compliments... but I can't take all the credit for Pasty Central. It's a team effort by the staff and residents of Still Waters Assisted Living Community. Daryl Laitila monitors all our discussion pages and does web design work, photography, etc. Jonathan Hopper maintains the servers which keep us connected, as well as the growing PastyNET dial-in membership in the Keweenaw. Mike Patterson manages the pasty kitchen and the packaging department, along with Lori White and John Bramble, Still Waters' personnel director. Becky Howard processes the steady flow of pasty orders, Fedex, accounting, and responding to email. Along with several part timers and about 18 Still Waters residents (who help with peeling veggies each month), we all carry on this labor of love, to bring you a 'glimpse of life in the U.P.'

By Grant and Nancy Markham on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 10:44 pm:

Hi - My wife and I were in Laurium/Calumet area last month visiting her sister. We wanted to try your pasties, but were told you make them in an old warehouse now but we did walk by your home. We had to settle for pasties from Toni's (sp?) in Laurium. We are back in New Mexico and will order some from you guys -- maybe around Christams. Sorry we didn't get to see you in person. My wife is from Sault Ste Marie and I was from Escanaba.

By Frank, Illinois on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 01:17 pm:

Katy, for all the time you took to harumph, 10 seconds typing "Stella's Pasty Shop Appleton" into a search engine (I use Google.com) would have gotten you the answer.

http://www.pasty.com/let0699.html and look for the email on the 18th.

Sounds like it might be better to order 'em from Pasty.com!


By Katy, WI on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:54 am:

I am very upset with this site. I have written for a week now and you guys have not answered me yet but have answered everyone else?!
Is it because I did not comment you and asked about something else that is not related to your business in any way. I think you should respect and show your apreciation that I actually come on the internet and waste my time checking this site to see if you have written back. But I guess I should go elsewhere and I know you have info on what I want to know...you just don't want to give it to me! But that's alright I have better things to do then to ever come in here again. Knowing you guys don't respond to certain letters.
<Daryl>: Sorry, Katy. I've done a search through all of the messages ever posted here in the discussion group and didn't find anything in reference to any pasty shops in Appleton. We didn't mean to ignore you.

By Michigan on Friday, October 12, 2001 - 08:19 am:

Does anyone have Lisa Kargela(Holloway) new e-mail address? I need to get in touch with her ASAP. Thank you. Hello to all fellow YOOPERS.

By mehdi on Monday, October 8, 2001 - 04:11 am:


By Carmie Brusso Stoh on Monday, October 8, 2001 - 12:38 am:


I am looking for a classmate who graduated from Calumet High in 1973. Her maiden name was Cynthia Weege. If anyone has corresponded with her would you kindly e-mail me. We were close friends and lost touch after high school as her parents moved away.

Thank you, Carm

By Katy, Wisconsin on Friday, October 5, 2001 - 08:56 am:

I have been reading the messages. I saw something about Stella's Pasty Shop on Wisconsin Ave.in Appleton, Wisconsin. I wanted to know what was said. I've heard of the shop. I drive pass it on the way to work sometimes. If you could I'd like to know what some people have said about it before I stop in.


By Renee in IL on Wednesday, October 3, 2001 - 09:58 pm:

Hello all!
I love Dan's Sept. 30, '01 picture. Can someone tell me tho is that from the Lake of the Clouds area in the Porkies or Brockway mountain?
Best wishes,

By JIM ELLIS on Monday, October 1, 2001 - 04:15 pm: