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Past-E-Mail: Cam Notes - 2004: July: Jul 14-04: Thumbs UP
President's visit to Marquette
Positive messages of support for Mr. Bush's re-election

By Mike-Transplanted Yooper-Redford, Mi on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 06:49 am:

4 more years!! President Bush is a shot in the arm for this country. Finally we have a president that takes the office seriously and has family values.
Good to see that he actually CARES about the average American citizen; re his visit to the Upper Peninsula. This transplanted Yooper supports the President 100 percent.
May God continue to bless him, the Copper Country, and the United States.

By nl on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:09 am:

We can only hope. Let's hope the too, too
liberal east coast doesn't screw it up for all of

Having lived in the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts for the past 13 years, exiled
from Michigan, I can tell you that Kerry isn't
who he projects himself to be on the "big

By Mr.Bill on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:22 am:


By JJ,MI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:23 am:

No matter what party, it is an honor to have the President of the United States visit our area.We can agree to disagree on issues, but the person in that position is entitled to the respect that position should command. Hats off to you Mr. President for coming north of the bridge.

By moi on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:27 am:

Go Bush!!
Couldn't be there....heard it was a blast!

By Paul Roberts, Mohawk on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:56 am:

I'm proud that we've finally had a visit from the President. I support him 200% and I find it sad athat there are people out there that while they have every right to their opinion of the President and his decesions are more inclined to bash him then discuss whgat's important for the future of this country. I've seen more articles on the President being bashed then I have of seruious isssues being discussed. Instead of griping about why he's not doing this or that let's discuss/debate the issues of the day. People have way too much time on their hands if all they do when politics are discussed is gripe. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the man he holds the office of President and desrves the respect the office he holds commands.

By sandstone princess on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:09 am:

Wow, I was so surprised that the President came for a visit. That has got to be a great act, hard to follow by the other two. We are blessed by being able to live in a "free" country...go and bash your leaders anywhere else and see what happens. I always thought that political ads were to be paid for, however the left gets free ads on every station TV or otherwise, from sad rappers that blame Bush for 9/11 (good grief) to books on why the author hates Bush and then that Moore guy...
Go Bush Backers!!

By UP_gal on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:18 am:

Remember that much of John Kerry's wealth comes from his wife and the Heinz family fortune. Most of those products are made in Mexico or other countries. Just go read the Heinz labels to see where his stance on US jobs would lie.

By Roudy Mi on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:52 am:

YA! We need fewer Bush wackers and more Bush backers.

By Paul in the CC on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:11 am:

I was there yesterday. IT WAS PHENOMENOL to have the US President there in Marquette, the heart of the UP! I am so glad I went. What an opportunity.

By Tom-Calumet on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:52 am:

My wife and I are not too interested in party politics, but we traveled to Marquette yesterday to see President Bush largely because it was a historical event for the U.P.

Although it may have been a political rally, the support shown our President by republicans, democrats, and others gathered there clearly demonstrated the U.P. is a land of patriots.

As we listened to President Bush's speech I thought about my son in the military and my younger son about to enlist and realized that I have never more proud to be a "Yooper" and above American.

By waiting on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:57 am:

Mr. Wheatman, will you please comment on the above

By A P on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:59 am:

I'm still trying to figure out the out about how running up a mammoth deificit while making the super rich richer is good for the country. Or raising the mercury level in our water. Or alienating allies. Or giving away our natural resources. Or attacking the Bill of Rights. Or letting the oil people make our energy policy. Or how saying our troops should not be in Iraq is not supporting them.

By please vote on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:44 pm:

Go GW Bush!! I was there yesterday. It's so nice to hear all of the good that has become of the tax cuts. I sure hope that GW gets back in to enjoy the success of what he has done. If John Kerry gets in right when the economy is going up from Bush's fiscal help, he'll pat himself on the back for it. That's what happened with Clinton after Bush Sr. Get out and vote!!

By Vanessa, MI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:45 pm:

To bad I'm not old enough to vote--- he has my vote!!!!!!!!!!!

By Karen, WI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 01:35 pm:

Wish I could have made it to Marquette yesterday, although many in my family did. I am 101% in favor of George Bush. I read through both the thumbs up and thumbs down comments to see both sides of the picture. However, I found that many of the thumbs down comments against Bush had very little reasoning behind them. I am a firm believer in family values, and I think anyone who grew up the UP should be (I am a transplanted yooper). How can you be in support of family values and still vote for Kerry? Have a wonderful day all!

By danbury; germany on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 03:05 pm:

Hey, AP, you sure you got the right site?
Actually, I'm with that. Go Bush! Oops, time to switch the site, is it!

By Tom, IL on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 03:29 pm:

Referring to the post by "A P on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 11:59 am:", your comments do not belong in the thumbs up board. You have no reason to be here. Of couse, I fully support open political dialog...

Does this give you a warm fuzzy feeling of "support" from me? Cutting military budgets and saying 'military action has been a disaster in Iraq' is by no means "supporting" the troops.

Bush & his administration are doing a fine job despite the mainstream media's incessant negativity. We've lost 50 times more people in auto accidents over Memorial Day weekend alone than US casualties in the year-and-a-half of war in Iraq. Everyone I know coming back from Iraq says how much progress is being made over there and how hopeful the Iraqi people are. How about reporting that for a change?

By missing the sandstone on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 04:45 pm:

Ouch! I just read all the stuff at thumbs down! Wow, what a bunch of mean spirited blame-shiffing people on that page. I would have put my 2 cents in, but would have come out bloody. Why is it that if your company goes under, its George's fault? How about changes in the economy, peoples tastes or just plain not keeping up with the future, and possibly poor management.
'Nuf said, glad we are all happy people....just don't forget to vote;->

By Dave Whitten, Farmington Hills, MI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 04:52 pm:

Wonder who Osama would vote for?
Guess I'll vote for the other guy.
W in 04!

By Gen X-er, IL on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 05:42 pm:

I'm not even going to go to the thumbs down site. Why bother. It's like going to that Michael Moore movie, why bother. The more we get upset the more credit we give them. Let's stay positive here people! Let's keep calling attention to all the GOOD things that our President has done for us:

Jobs are up, the economy is up, most of us got sweethearts of a deal on refinancing, taxes are down, the marriage penalty is gone, the education bill is passed, the medicare bill is passed, many terrorists are dead or heavily engaged around the world, the homeland security department is underway back home, and we even have enough energy left to push for space exploration! What a fantastic leader we have in Bush and his team! W'04 all the way!

By Thumbs Up!, MI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 05:47 pm:

Top Ten Reasons to Vote For Kerry:

1) You believe criminals should have more rights than honest, working citizens.
2) You want to forfeit your guns so only criminals have guns (remember the 2004 Detroit Fireworks shootings which involved an illegally obtained gun with serial # scraped off, as usual)
3) You don't mind large numbers of able bodied people on welfare.
4) You enjoy having a weak national defense and have forgotten that we won the cold war because the Russians couldn't keep up with the arms race while Reagan was Chief.
5) You don't mind your son or daughter being denied opportunity to a quality university because they don't qualify as being in a protected special interest group.
6) You don't know much about how Japanese Militarism and German Nazism was defeated in WWII. Hint: It was not a group hug, diplomacy or anti-war rally.
7) You claim to be a democrat, but you support National Health care, Sweden style, so you are really a Socialist that doesn't mind the idea of a 65% income tax rate.
8) You believe the best way to offset poor fiscal responsibility is to increase taxes.
9) You are against the death penalty, no matter what the perp did or how airtight the case is.
10) You think an old lady with a walker should be frisked and detained by airport security as vigorously as someone that meets the terrorist profile.

By concerned citizen from Iowa on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 05:52 pm:

It’s interesting to see the strong outcry against Bush when past Presidents have done some things that make any bad policies by Bush look trivial. Many people just don’t research the policies and actions of politicians as much as they should; they just listen to everything the liberal-biased/anti-Bush media says and then voice their political opinions with emotion instead of thought.

I agree w. Karen from WI about the importance of family values. How can someone be in support of family values and still vote for Kerry? I’m constantly amazed to see polls stating that people who claim to be Christian support politicians such as Kerry, who favor laws related to social issues which are in direct conflict with Christian teachings. I guess these voters have other selfish motives that are more important to them than moral issues.

Security-wise, this country is obviously in danger. It frightens me to think that a Kerry administration would be in charge of protecting this country. I have a lot more confidence in the Bush administration to hold-up-the-fort!

For the sake of the country, I really hope W. wins the election.

Go W!!!

By Yooper-To-Be in 2005, Saginaw, MI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 06:39 pm:

Saw him in Saginaw 4 years ago. He has my vote again!

By Sarah & Joel, St. Clair Shores MI on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:33 pm:

You go George W!

By mg-Mich on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:53 pm:

Did anyone call their U.S.Senator today and ask them to vote yes on the New Amendment to protect the Sanctity of Marriage? Do it everyday until they listen to us. President Bush is for the new Amendment to protect these moral values that All Christians say we believe in. It is for our sake and our future generation sake. Call Senator Carl Levin and Senator Debbie Stabenow.

By joeyooper on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:06 pm:

I post this on thumbs up so Charlie can transfer it to thumbs down. He doesn't seem to be as concerned with keeping thumbs down as clean as thumbs up.
I am just amazed that intelligent Bush voters, at least do not have second thoughts! I have heard from these people that Bush is our greatest President in history. What about FDR, Lincoln, George Washington??? Both side have their minds made up, there is no hope.

By Charlie at Pasty Central on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:39 pm:


We have several staff members who serve as moderators. I did not have that assignment today, so if you had something moved, it wasn't by me.

I find it interesting, on days we open the door to political conversation, at how polarized the discussion becomes. I have friends on both sides of the aisle who have well-reasoned, compelling arguments for their stand on the issues, yet they honestly come to very differing positions. It is that balance over the years which has kept our country from becoming dominated to the point of crowning a king and abandoning democracy.

I do hope that Americans in general can hang on to our civility toward our fellow Americans who hold a different point of view.

On the contrary, Joey, there is hope.

By smn/Clearwater on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:24 pm:

I say, Charlie put something uplifting on this site tomorrow. What an ugly day this was!!!!!
I usually turn this on after work to enjoy some quiet moments and look at the beauty. This was far from beauty today....about as far as one can get.

By k on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 09:49 pm:

A previous poster wrote; "...and I find it sad a that there are people out there that while they have every right to their opinion of the President and his decesions are more inclined to bash him then discuss what's important for the future of this country."
Isn't it amazing how things turn around ?
Remember Ken Starr ?
20 bucks says the guy that posted the above message was ready to throw Clinton outta office for his "escapades" in the oval office...

By Stuart in michigan on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:07 pm:


By Tammy on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 12:23 am:

Ever have "one of those days"? You know the kind: The boss is screaming "I want it yesterday!," the kids have the flu, and your hair is sticking up on end like Don King's. Well, on those days, it's important to keep things in perspective. After all, you live in the richest, most powerful nation in the whole gosh-darn world!

You may have a run in your pantyhose, and the floor of your car may be covered with a week's worth of Styrofoam coffee cups, but you shouldn't be a frowny Frank. Keep that chin up, and remember that our country has more than 1.3 million military personnel on active duty and the most advanced weapons systems on Earth. That should turn anyone's frown upside down.

Even on a Monday—heck, even on a rainy Monday—our nation has nearly three times the purchasing power of Japan, which has the world's second largest economy. That's gotta make you smile. So hang in there!

Speaking of "Hang In There!," have you ever seen the poster with the picture of the kitten hanging from the branch? I have it on the wall of my cubicle at the insurance agency. It reminds me to keep reaching for the stars, even when I feel discouraged. Sure, life's an uphill battle. Sometimes, you want to throw your hands up and say, "I give up!" But at those moments, you owe it to yourself to give it another try.

Psst... I've got a secret remedy for a case of the blues. First, buy yourself a treat. Ice cream, flowers, a foot-massage kit—it doesn't matter what, so long as it's something you love. Then, take a look at the latest statistics from the World Health Organization. At least in your country, you don't have a one-in-three chance of being HIV-positive, like the people in some places! Did you know that AIDS will account for 44.7 percent of adult deaths in South Africa this year and is projected to account for 78.6 percent by 2010? Not in America, though! That's why, around these parts, every day is a rainbow day!

Sometimes, it feels like I can't do anything right. This morning, for example, I dropped my toast on the floor. (Guess which side it landed on.) Then, when I got to work, I realized I'd forgotten my desk keys—again! I was this close to getting seriously down on myself when I remembered something I definitely have done right in my life: I was born in the U.S.A.! Just think where I could've been born: North Korea, Cambodia, Burkina Faso. I could be dead by now, killed by starvation, malaria, tidal wave, rebel insurgents, drought, civil war, well poisoning, a land mine... I won't bore you, but the list goes on and on!

You know that old saying, "Life begins at 40"? Well, not in Sierra Leone! The life expectancy there is 38! I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto!

Did you know that the U.S. makes up only 4 percent of the world's population, yet we have a third of its automobiles and consume a quarter of its energy supply? Keep that in mind the next time you get passed over for that big promotion at work!

Now, I'm not saying I never complain. There are lots of things that make me mad. Like waiting in line. It drives me absolutely batty! Doesn't it seem like every time you get in line at the post office, the line you pick winds up moving half as fast as the one next to it? But if you switch to the other line, the one you'd been in suddenly starts moving! At times like that, I just close my eyes and think about our country's 3.9 million miles of paved roads, enough to circle the Earth at the equator 157 times.

Yes, whenever I need a super-duper pick-me-up, I just think about my elite status as an American citizen. That never fails to put the feather back in my cap. Sure, there's a war going on and lots of other problems, but let's keep in mind that over the past 20 years, our economy has grown at a faster rate than at any other time in our history. That means when Friday comes, it's time to celebrate with a happy-hour raspberry margarita at Applebee's! Why not? I'm from America, the wealthiest country in the entire world!

By Proud to be an American on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 04:01 am:

It's old and dated, but the message is still the same.

The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth.

As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtse. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did.

They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Misssissippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.

The Marshall Plan .. the Truman Policy .. all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.

I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.

Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 107? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or women on the moon?

You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everyone to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, most of them ... unless they are breaking Canadian laws .. are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.

When the Americans get out of this bind ... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the Israel bonds, Let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.

Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.

I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.

This year's disasters .. with the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody...but nobody... has helped.

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